lonestranger

Let me start out by saying that I am not trying to be misleading, I am trying to point out that there are exceptions and a blank bar chart does not eliminate the possibility of those exceptions. I can speak from personal experience regarding rarities and range maps, take from it what you like. I can't provide specific dates but about 5-10 years ago, I thought I saw a Painted Bunting in my Southern Ontario backyard. The bird landed on the top rail of a chain link fence right outside my patio doors. I had only ever seen pictures of Painted Buntings before and was pretty sure they weren't in my range but I was CERTAIN that I was looking at a beautiful male Painted Bunting just like the photos I had seen, and it was only a few feet away from me. I reached for my camera but the bird flew off before I could get a photo so I only had a few seconds of viewing this bird. It was easy to verify that Painted Buntings were way out of range so I started looking for more likely candidates. I couldn't find anything that matched the bird I saw but the closest candidate I could come up with was a molting Summer Tanager. I reluctantly dismissed my rarity as wishful thinking and kicked myself for not being able to get a photo. It was months, or possibly a year later when I discovered that a Painted Bunting had been documented wintering in the next county over from where I lived. Did I see a rare Painted Bunting in Southern Ontario the same year that one wintered here? Hindsight tells me that I did actually see a Painted Bunting, range maps told me to dismiss that possibility though, which I believe ultimately lead me to the wrong ID at the time. I think the fact that we know there will be shifts and changes in the graphs and charts is reason enough to be open to the possibility that those shifts and changes can happen before the charts and graphs reflect those shifts and changes. I am not saying to ignore the charts and graphs, I am suggesting that an open mind should be used when interpreting them.

I agree that bar charts can be a useful tool. I'm not sure how a blank bar chart is useful in ruling out a rarity though. There would be no point in looking for rarities if they're ruled out by a blank bar chart, would there? Wouldn't ALL rarities show up as a blank bar chart right up until that rarity is reported and accepted? I am not suggesting that a rarity should be considered in this, or any uncertain ID, but ruling out a rarity based on a blank bar chart rules out the possibility of finding ANY rarities, in my opinion. As it has been stated in different ways before, birds don't follow range maps and they don't pay any attention to past statistics, they are game changers that don't give a damn about our interpretation of the rules or the boundaries of the game we play. ?

Welcome to Whatbird @Stacey. It looks you have two Dark-eyed Juncos with the second one being leucistic, which is a loss of colour pigment in some of the feathers.

I can swallow a fish this big, or a french fry that big.

I was tracking swallows flying across the field when this deer came wandering through and stopped long enough to pose for a few shots before moving on.

@xpoetmarcr gets the win and gets to pick the next photo.

I was going to suggest the possibility of them growing into the red eye with age but thought I'd better look it up first. My iBird app said juveniles have dark eyes so I checked with Cornell and found the white eyed variant. Definitely a cool bird.

I was curious and had a quick look and found this. https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Eastern_Towhee/photo-gallery/64991931

Last call for captions, I'll call a winner later tonight or tomorrow morning.

Mental note, you can get hurt if you tickle someone the wrong way.

So birders are ornithologists in training, not the guys enjoying birds through the lens of a camera. Got it. I guess I am in the minority by agreeing with Kenn Kaufman. According to Kenn Kaufman, “Birding is something that we do for enjoyment; so if you enjoy it, you're a good birder. If you enjoy it a lot, you're a great birder.” I will go on record as saying that I hate terms that divide or separate similarly minded people. The notion that one method of enjoying the birds is superior to another method of enjoying birds is ridiculous to me. Having a pair of binoculars and a field guide does not mean someone enjoys the birds or learns any more than someone who uses a camera and the internet to do their learning and get their enjoyment. I'm sorry folks, I didn't mean to derail the original topic, but I can't help but feel a sense of superiority when the term birder is used to describe others as JUST something less than the birder making the reference. It comes across to me like, if you don't do it my way, you're not doing right and therefore you don't fit into the elitist group we call birders. I don't mean to offend anyone that calls themselves a birder, I know it's a label that many wear proudly. I couldn't care less though if I offend those that pass judgement on OTHERS because of the method of their birding. If a bird photographer calls themself a birder, who has the right to say they're not a birder? A real birder? Now if you'll excuse me, I am going to take my camera and go enjoy the birds for a while. Call it what you like. ?

I am curious, how do you define a birder? Are there minimum requirements, beyond an interest in birds, to qualify as a birder? How do you tell the difference between birders with a camera and the bird photographers, is there a characteristic or something specific that separates the two? I am genuinely curious because it seems like the term birder gets used regularly to separate birders from those people that are considered to be something less than birders. I always thought it was an inclusive term, now I wonder if it's an exclusive term.

Okay, caption this.

When buying third party lenses, I would suggest checking with the manufacturer to make sure it's compatible with your choice of camera. While I am pretty sure the two are compatible, I suggest making sure by checking with the manufacturer.

Welcome to Whatbird, @birdigrl60. I think this will be the most helpful info you'll find here. https://forums.whatbird.com/index.php?/announcement/3-what-to-do-if-you-find-a-baby-or-injured-bird/

I'll just point out that if you're going with the Sigma or Tamron 150-600mm lens, it is made for both Canon and Nikon cameras. I can't comment on Nikon DSLRs from personal experience, but I know enough to safely say that they make some quality cameras too. Just more food for thought.

The 7D is a very capable camera, I used one for about 5 years before upgrading to the 7D Mark ii. I thoroughly enjoyed using the 7D. When paired with a good lens, I think it can help produce some great images. Knowing what I know now, I wish I had kept the 7D. It can have noise issues in low light, but that can be said about many cameras and with today's noise reduction software, well, noise is less of an issue.

I think you may have caught the bird trying to do some sky writing(with poop), similar to this photo. ?

There are a lot of good quality cameras available in the used market. Many people will ignore an older 8MP, 12MP, or even 16MP cameras because the new ones have 20MP or more. What some may not realize is that you only need 8MP to print an 8x10 photo, and you only need a fraction of that to display your photos digitally. If you don't mind using products that were top of their line 5-10 years ago, you can get some great cameras for a fraction of the cost of todays entry level cameras. While there's been many advancements since those cameras were first released, there's no denying that the top of the line cameras took top of the line photos back then, so the same should hold true today.

Hmmm, I'm not sure I agree with that.....https://www.keh.com/shop/cameras/digital-cameras/dslr/canon.html?product_list_order=price_asc

I'd suggest asking yourself what is wrong with your current gear and what advantages/features you are looking for with the new gear. If you have answers, then buying new gear should be a lot easier. Wanting to take better photos is a costly reason to keep upgrading if you don't know why you need that upgrade. I will say that it could end up being quite expensive buying starter gear in the DSLR product line, after just recently upgrading in the P&S product line. P&S $$$ + P&S upgrade $$$ + entry level DSLR $$$ + entry level Lens $$$ + DSLR Upgrade $$$ + Lens Upgrade $$$ = a lot of $$$$$$ If you're looking to buy better photos, skip the costly middle upgrades and go right for QUALITY gear, it'll be much cheaper in the long run. I'm not saying to buy the best there is, just don't waste your photography budget on cheap products that will probably leave you wanting better gear, even if the cheap stuff satisfies the itch of the moment. If you're going to pinch a few pennies, I suggest skimping on the camera and investing more in the lens, not the other way around. A quality lens on a cheap camera will produce better images than a cheap lens on a quality camera. Shop accordingly.