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Aveschapines

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  1. Goldfinch was my first thought too, but I didn't know what species to suggest!
  2. Don't worry about it! You can PM me to ask me to merge them when it happens. I was far more concerned that people were saying California Scrub Jay by range, and I was wondering if they have them in Colombia LOL!
  3. It looks mostly black on mine too, but if I adjust the angle (laptop) I can see the bird pretty well.
  4. Interesting. I had assumed the posts from the thread that got moved stayed together. I'll have to remember to add a notice in the future when I merge two complicated threads.
  5. I merged the two threads. I thought I was going to need to move them too; I was thinking the bird was in Colombia! LOL
  6. Hi! I agree it looks good for a Green Heron. They do really look different in different body positions, and fooled me often until I had seen a lot of them.
  7. I agree that it's possible but hard to be sure from this photo, but I disagree with banning them 😜
  8. Another common word for hummingbird here is "picaflor", which would roughly translate as flower poker. In K'iche' and some other Mayan languages it's "tzunun". Also I wouldn't really expect a lot of enthusiasm for Mexican common names; there is a sort of friendly rivalry, and we all complain when endemics get called Mexican (like the recent change from Green to Mexican Violetear).
  9. My trick for that (when people ask me for help) is to tell them to pronounce a long "sssssssss" sound and then go into the rest of the word; that prevents the automatic "e" at the beginning. With practice they can learn it (just like we can learn to use very short vowels and roll "r" and "rr" correctly!)
  10. Thanks for the observations @Jerry Friedman! The extent to which I try to teach proper pronunciation varies tremendously depending on the person and the situation. I don't correct anyone at all unless they ask me to, and if I don't even understand what name they're saying I limit myself to repeating it. Those who want further help or correction will ask. But a lot of people I hang out with are professional bird guides or are in training, so they tend to be very interested in learning the correct pronunciations and ask me to help them. I will go as far as teaching them the proper mouth position, etc. to pronounce the sounds if they want! Mayan language speakers generally do better, probably both because they are already bilingual (there is good evidence that learning a third language is easier than a second one) and because the Mayan languages have more vowel sounds than Spanish. But in the most recent case of the Scaup my friend asked me what the correct pronunciation is so he could hear me say it, and I didn't know! Serious birders here use scientific names, and usually also English common names. Guides always use the English common names. The problem with common names in Spanish is they aren't standardized. It's not even an issue of Mexican vs Guatemalan names; they aren't even consistent within Guatemala. "Azulejo" is commonly used for both Eastern Bluebirds and Blue-Gray Tanagers; "Zanate" can be a Great-Tailed Grackle, Bronzed Cowbird, or Melodious Blackbird; and many people call female grackles "Zanates" but males "Clarineros" (and don't realize they are actually the same species). Even in general terms, "gorrión" can mean sparrow to some people and hummingbird to others. And yes, we do pronounce the scientific names as if they were Spanish (how do YOU pronounce "jamaicensis"? I also use the "J" from "José") and many birders prefer them because they are easier to pronounce (even if badly LOL!) than English names. Newbie birders and non-birders always ask for Spanish names, so we spend a lot of time explaining the issues with Spanish names. But it can be a source of lots of fun! During the Christmas Bird Count in Panajachel in January one of my teammates (the one who asked me how to pronounce "Scaup") kept saying Dusky-Capped Flycatcher more like "Dus -- kycapped Flycatcher", pausing after the "dus" and linking the "-ky" with the "capped". I kept hearing it as "dos Kikab' Flycatchers", Kikab' being the Mayan name of the son of a mutual friend! It took me a few seconds to process that it was (one) Dusky-Capped, and not two Kikab' Flycatchers! We both had a good laugh and my friend started very carefully saying "Dus---ky (long pause) CAP" Flycatcher!
  11. Yeah, here it would be more like "ska-oop" but with very quick pronunciation of the vowels and rapid transition. And yes, very hard to explain it to them; but when they ask me to say it for them to hear it would be nice to know the right way to say it LOL! I had read that article before and had forgotten that nobody here pronounces "Jacana" they way they say; It's usually ja-KA-na, sometimes ha-KA-na. And thank goodness we don't see Pileated Woodpeckers around here! Prothonotary is one people just kind of give up on (but they're rare here too!)
  12. I've seen that before but it doesn't have Scaup 🤔
  13. Ah - like the "a" sound in "hawk"? (That sound also doesn't exist in Spanish so would be hard for the natives too!)
  14. Birding friends here have asked me how to pronounce "Scaup". Unfortunately I learned about birding here, mostly from native Spanish speakers, so I've picked up a lot of their mispronunciations and don't always know which is considered correct! I've always assumed "Scaup" should be pronounced like "scalp" (I don't pronounce the l in scalp). But some locals say "scope" or "scoop". Now, "scalp" is very difficult for Spanish speakers to pronounce, so that alone could explain it. But - how do you pronounce it? Thanks!
  15. It was warm to me, although the locals were wearing jackets. It was early in the morning so probably not much above 80 F at the time. The day did get very hot.
  16. Hi everyone! I have been curious about behavior I observed in Neotropic Cormorants in Lake Petén Itzá, in Flores, Petén, Guatemala (in the Yucatan Peninsula) in December of last year. It was fairly early in the morning and the Cormorants were hanging around on posts and such perches in the lake, and sometimes holding their wings open. But the ones sitting with wings folding were vibrating their cheeks; seemed to be for indefinite periods. Any idea what this behavior is? Thanks! Short video of the behavior: https://www.facebook.com/helen.stohlman/videos/1801552649969200/
  17. Yes, and also the "First bird of 2020"; both threads are still there, just not pinned.
  18. There certainly are some "old" members missing, but they can still come back if they want. I deactivated the message, since the response so far has been overwhelmingly remove it/don't care (number of views greatly exceeds number of votes). I'll leave the discussion pinned for a few more days in case someone wants to try to convince me otherwise (the message can be reactivated easily). Thanks for participating!
  19. Just being silly, since you both said you had the same thought very recently 😄
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