Which Hummingbird?

[Sue]

From what I’ve been able to gather, this is a Magnificent Hummingbird? I don’t even see it listed, so now I’m not sure. This was taken in Enid, OK. August 22 mid to late afternoon. Sorry for the poor quality photos. It looks a lot like the one posted from Idaho.

Thanks!

[psweet]

This looks like either a Ruby-throated or Black-chinned to me. Magnificent would be an awfully nice bird in Oklahoma, so you're going to need very clear photos to convince people if you do get one.

[Sue]

Definitely not a ruby throat. I had them back in NY. I’ll look up black chinned. It’s Head is dark, throat white, green back and wing coverlets, dusty front. I have an Audubon remote camera. I set it up on the feeder pole but it spooked him. Will attach it to a maple sapling maybe 10’ away tomorrow. 

[aveschapinas]

It looks way too small to be a Magnificent; they are much larger than Ruby-Throateds. Black-Chinned are closer in size to Ruby-Throated. It also doesn't appear to have a long enough bill or bulky enough body for a Magnificent (by the way, the name has been changed to Rivoli's). I should have a picture of both for comparison; let me look.

[aveschapinas]

It looks way too small to be a Magnificent; they are much larger than Ruby-Throateds. Black-Chinned are closer in size to Ruby-Throated. It also doesn't appear to have a long enough bill or bulky enough body for a Magnificent (by the way, the name has been changed to Rivoli's). I should have a picture of both for comparison; let me look.

Well, I couldn't quickly fnd a pic of both together; the best I can offer right now is photos of both in similar poses on the same feeder. Also including a female Magnificent for comparison.

[psweet]

Ruby-throated and Black-chinned look very similar in this plumage -- the Ruby-throats that people are so familiar with in the east are the adult males. Females and youngsters look like this. You're in an area where the expected species is Ruby-throated, but Black-chinned could certainly occur.

[Sue]

I have a remote camera that I will set up on a sapling near ythe feeder as soon as the wind dies down. It’s gusting to 35 mph at the moment, so all that movement will mess things up. Bird has only been to the feeder a few times today, I guess because of the wind. He had some maneuvering to do this morning!

[Sue]

well!  I found my binoculars that only barely work,the. Irdcame down to feed, the sun came out from a cloud and he turned his head. Aha! The ruby red throat came out brilliantly!  Thank you all for your help. In the end, he finally de died to show himself for me.

[aveschapinas]

You probably have both males and females (and immatures); watch for the females, like in the first photo I posted. They are a little bigger than the males and don't have the red throat. They are all whitish underneath, with some peachy wash on the flanks. Not as flashy as the boys, but very nice-looking birds!

Also looking again at the female Magnificent/Rivoli's I posted above, I'm pretty sure it's actually an immature male; it looks like his colors are starting to develop on the underparts. I need to organize my photos better; I don't have as many photos of female Magnificents becasue they don't come to my feeders anywhere near as often as the males, but I know I have some somewhere! They do look a lot like female Ruby-Throateds, in terms of coloration, but the size and shape is different.

[Sue]

Thank you for your help. There actually was a second hummer , but it was chased away by the male ruby throat. Without my lousy binoculars (and him showing off) the most outstanding thing about him is the white collar. That’s what I was going by. 

Thanks again!