David Hilgeman Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I birded Ojo Caliente, New Mexico on Tuesday and wanted some confirmations on the below birds. I'm from the southeast US and saw lots of new birds today.....many thanks. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 The right bird is a Chipping sparrow, not sure about the left one. 2 Brewer's Sparrow I think. 3 Red-bellied Woodpecker. 4 Pinyon Jay. 5-6 House Finch. 7-8 Pass. (For now.) 9 Western Bluebird. (I think.) 10-11 Lazuli Bunting. 12 Say's Phoebe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I like Western Wood-Pewee for the Flycatcher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 @David Hilgeman Welcome to the forum! Is the left bird in the first photo the same as the bird in second photo? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) A few corrections- #1 the left bird appears to be a juvenile Chipping Sparrow #2 is a Lark Sparrow, notice the sturdier structure and white on the underside of the tail #3 is a female/immature Williamson's Sapsucker- no other NA woodpecker is so evenly and plainly barred over the entire body. Red-bellied of course does not live in NM #8 is a Broad-tailed Hummingbird with that buffy coloration and elongated structure Edited August 5, 2020 by Benjamin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hilgeman Posted August 5, 2020 Author Share Posted August 5, 2020 Kevin- No the first photo isn't related to the second photo. The two were taken in different locations. Thank you for the help. Benjamin- Many thanks! David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Benjamin said: A few corrections- #1 the left bird appears to be a juvenile Chipping Sparrow #2 is a Lark Sparrow, notice the sturdier structure and white on the underside of the tail #3 is a female/immature Williamson's Sapsucker- no other NA woodpecker is so evenly and plainly barred over the entire body. Red-bellied of course does not live in NM #8 is a Broad-tailed Hummingbird with that buffy coloration and elongated structure I thought the first one might be a Chipping Sparrow but I didn't want to say that and be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Kevin said: I thought the first one might be a Chipping Sparrow but I didn't want to say that and be wrong. Dark lores + bright wings = Chipping. And, of course, it's right next to an adult Chipping perching in a habitat in which I would not expect Brewer's, which likes a brushy desert landscape. Edited August 5, 2020 by Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Isn't the bird in the second photo also a Chipping? The eyeline doesn't curve downward like a Lark Sparrow's and its beak is small and very pink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, The Bird Nuts said: Isn't the bird in the second photo also a Chipping? The eyeline doesn't curve downward like a Lark Sparrow's and its beak is small and very pink. It makes me feel better to know that one of two better birders also has misidentified it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackburnian Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 The second bird is a Lark Sparrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackburnian Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Also there’s no Pinyon Jay. The Jay is a Scrub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackburnian Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Woodhouse’s, that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 For those still stuck on the second bird, notice the brownish nape as opposed to a grayish on Chipping. And again, I'll point you to notice the tail pattern. @blackburnian, good catch on the Jay. @Kevin, I totally know that feeling- it's honestly just a lot of practice and experience. Doesn't mean that I, or anybody else can't get these wrong- so just stick with it and keep sharpening your skills, and don't be afraid to bring new ideas to the table, even if it's not what the 'better birders' are saying! If it's not clear to you why an ID is correct or incorrect, then it's probably not clear to someone else too! So taking the time to explain how I, or anybody else arrives at that ID will help everyone learn, even me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Benjamin said: For those still stuck on the second bird, notice the brownish nape as opposed to a grayish on Chipping. And again, I'll point you to notice the tail pattern. Ah, thanks! I missed your first explanation. Sorry about that. I obviously don't have much experience with Lark Sparrows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Kevin said: It makes me feel better to know that one of two better birders also has misidentified it. I only asked if it was also a Chipping!.............................................................okay, I misidentified it..........?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalarope713 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) I agree with Lark Sparrow, but I’m not enitrely confident that the hummingbird’s a Broad-tailed. Any more shots of it? Edited August 6, 2020 by Phalarope713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hilgeman Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 @Phalarope713 no more photos unfortunately. Those guys move fast! What are you thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalarope713 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Hard to say from this angle. Could be a Broad-tailed but I’m also thinking it might be a Black-chinned. The buffy/dusky wash to the flank seems very limited and potentially within range of Black-chinned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Leukering Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 21 hours ago, Benjamin said: #3 is a female/immature Williamson's Sapsucker Juvenile male Williamson's Sapsuckers are black, like the adults. 17 hours ago, blackburnian said: Also there’s no Pinyon Jay. The Jay is a Scrub. In drabbish blue jays east of the Sierras: Long bill, short tail = Pinyon Short bill, long tail = Woodhouse's Scrub-Jay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) Kind of surprised the hummingbird's ID is still being discussed. No other species in that area has a tail that long in proportion to the body (certainly not Black-chinned) hence it's a Broad-tailed Hummingbird. Edited August 7, 2020 by Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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