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A weird looking one, probably ssp. celata, with those super bright under tail coverts.But super bright overall, with no gray in head at all. Looks almost like leutences. Some presumed orestera I saw In the ruby mountains looked similar. I am confused on this birds subspecies.

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On 9/14/2020 at 1:40 PM, Connor Cochrane said:

A weird looking one, probably ssp. celata, with those super bright under tail coverts.But super bright overall, with no gray in head at all. Looks almost like leutences. Some presumed orestera I saw In the ruby mountains looked similar. I am confused on this birds subspecies.

celata is the dull, eastern subspecies; perhaps you intended lutescens, though distinguishing that form from bright orestera can be pretty tricky

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1 minute ago, Tony Leukering said:

celata is the dull, eastern subspecies; perhaps you intended lutescens, though distinguishing that form from bright orestera can be pretty tricky

I did mean lutescens instead of celata. Here in coastal California we get all 4 subspecies of OCWA, though sordida is rare. So i’ve been working on identifying them recently, something most people don’t do out here. This is a tricky one. Do lutescens make it out to Colorado often? I’m leaning bright it orestera right now. 

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1 hour ago, Connor Cochrane said:

Do lutescens make it out to Colorado often? I’m leaning bright it orestera right now. 

Yes, particularly in fall, though still rarely reported due to lack of interest and ID difficulty.

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