DC064 15 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 This bird was photographed a few days ago in the Ramona Grasslands. I can't find a good fit in iBird Pro, but it may be a Western Wood-Pewee. Estimate its size at about 5". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benjamin 758 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 This is actually a scruffy-looking Vermillion Flycatcher. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DC064 15 Posted October 7 Author Share Posted October 7 28 minutes ago, Benjamin said: This is actually a scruffy-looking Vermillion Flycatcher. I'm astounded. Are you sure? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Benjamin 758 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Yes, a young female https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/156116601#_ga=2.206683664.2057399774.1602049265-1712289724.1545602938 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlexHenry 1,069 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Where is Ramona Grasslands? Helpful to know location 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin 3,074 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Agreed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Connor Cochrane 1,673 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 6 hours ago, AlexHenry said: Where is Ramona Grasslands? Helpful to know location There is one a little NE of San Diego. It’s pretty far west if it is there. It would be rare. You don’t really get them to often until the salton sea. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DC064 15 Posted October 7 Author Share Posted October 7 (edited) 7 hours ago, AlexHenry said: Where is Ramona Grasslands? Helpful to know location It's a Hotspot in eBird. Look for "Ramona Grasslands Preserve". The hotspots "Ramona Grasslands--Old Survey Road 97" and "Rangeland Road" are also around the grasslands. Edited October 7 by DC064 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DC064 15 Posted October 7 Author Share Posted October 7 Thanks everyone for the ID! I am surprised since the bird does not have a trace of vermilion and vermilion flycatchers are uncommon in this area. Maybe there are more and we misidentify them. It's great to have so many experts available via this site. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aveschapines 651 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 It's a juvenile or immature, possibly female; that's why you don't see the vermillion color. Adult females have a reddish wash on the lower belly/vent area, and adult males have the bright vermillion color. Immature males have the red in patches as it grows in. The streaky breast also suggests juvenile or immature. I don't know if I've ever seen one with no red or even orangey or yellowish wash, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony Leukering 1,958 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Many Vermilions show little color on the underparts, even some older females: https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/159161901#_ga=2.103018498.30951479.1599863273-1184313056.1549327880 Juveniles usually lack color below: https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/233784581#_ga=2.103018498.30951479.1599863273-1184313056.1549327880 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/156116601#_ga=2.35911586.30951479.1599863273-1184313056.1549327880 Your bird looks like a very worn juvenile. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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