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Lesser black-backed gull? Long Lake NWR, North Dakota


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Do you have any other shots of this bird? There are a couple of odd things here -- it's a bit late in the season, I think, for such a white head in a Lesser, and the "drooping skirt" isn't typically seen in Lessers. The very dark back also isn't right. I would suggest posting this to several other places -- the Facebook gull page would be a good idea, for instance.

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23 minutes ago, psweet said:

Do you have any other shots of this bird? There are a couple of odd things here -- it's a bit late in the season, I think, for such a white head in a Lesser, and the "drooping skirt" isn't typically seen in Lessers. The very dark back also isn't right. I would suggest posting this to several other places -- the Facebook gull page would be a good idea, for instance.

Thanks, I've added some more photos, but I don't know if they will be helpful. 

I'm not aware of any Facebook gull page, and Google didn't come up with anything that seemed right. Do you happen to have a link? 

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54 minutes ago, akiley said:

 @psweet @SmilingBirder I cant see anything on Facebook, but it might be best (and easiest) to send it directly to Amar Ayyash, THE top North American expert on gulls. 

Here's his email address:   amarayyash@gmail.com

I emailed him directly once before and got a fast, helpful response back from him.

Thanks! I emailed him, and within minutes he responded, 

"Hi, David. Thanks for getting in touch. I see no problems with Lesser Black-backed Gull. It appears rather dark and we might conjecture it's subspecies intermedius, but there's really no way to be certain without a known-origin bird." 

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