floraphile Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 14 Nov 2020 Baldwin co al Old Field pine near wetlands No pic. Long tail. Pointed wings. Favor accipiter/falcon. Had striking white tail viewed from underneath. Wasn't a harrier. Took off from thick growth of pines/understorey thicket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Sharp-shinned Hawk? Or possibly Cooper’s, but sharpies fly more pointedly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Aaron said: Sharp-shinned Hawk? Or possibly Cooper’s, but sharpies fly more pointedly Can the tail of a Sharpie look all white from below? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 How about Mourning Dove? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Mmm well generally you can tell that the tail has barring. A mourning dove would be dissapointing! 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Aaron said: Mmm well generally you can tell that the tail has barring. A mourning dove would be dissapointing! 😂 I thought about that and have not ruled it out. 😄 We didn't hear the whistle [of the Mourning Dove wings], but raptors are more exciting so our ears may have deceived us. And hubby just pointed out that the tail seemed squared off, not pointed like a dove. But, idk... Edited November 15, 2020 by floraphile missing info 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamRHead Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Eurasian Collared Dove has a more squared-off white-looking tail... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 So I think consensus among experienced birders is that there isn't a raptor with a striking white tail and we should look at other species (like doves)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamRHead Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Or maybe a leucistic Sharpie or Kestral? Which would be way more interesting than a dove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 Maybe we can get a pic today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Cochrane Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Ferruginous Hawk is red-tailed size and would be very rare. Just throwing out options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Friedman Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 18 hours ago, floraphile said: So I think consensus among experienced birders is that there isn't a raptor with a striking white tail and we should look at other species (like doves)? There's the White-tailed Kite. The range and habitat aren't right, but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 Hubby saw more of the bird in detail than I did. He looked at some pics and he thinks it was a Sharpie. He said the tail was not all white, just the base, but was strikingly white in that area. He said it looked just like Plate SS01 in Wheeler & Clark. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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