Brett H Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I saw this duck in a small salt pan at Odiorne Point State Park in Rye, NH on 11/14/2020. It was with a northern pintail. The yellowish bill is throwing me off. The white borders on the speculum say mallard, but I think this duck is too dark overall. Thanks for the help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbirds Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Female Pintail x Mallard hybrid maybe?? I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) Why not green-winged teal? Edited November 15, 2020 by Avery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbirds Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 57 minutes ago, Avery said: Why not green-winged teal? The bill just looks too yellowish for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 It has the buffy triangles under the tail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbirds Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, Avery said: It has the buffy triangles under the tail I guess.... not really much else it could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett H Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 Thanks guys! I considered green-winged teal, but yeah, that yellow-ish bill is throwing me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbirds Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Brett H said: Thanks guys! I considered green-winged teal, but yeah, that yellow-ish bill is throwing me off. Your'e welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Leukering Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Seanbirds said: Pintail x Mallard I agree with GWTE. Mallard would provide some genes that really ought to make the underside of the wing more extensively white and there would be some indication of those genes in the upperside wing pattern. The pointed tail does give me pause, though. While the base of the bill in GWTE is often paler in females (such as here), I do not recall seeing one this obviously yellow-billed, and I don't know what hybrid combo would get yellow onto the bill of a female GWTE, unless there are some Yellow-billed Teal genes floating around in North America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett H Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 Thanks Tony. Good info. Yellow-billed teal is interesting... this bird certainly does look like one of those. I'll put something crazy up on eBird and see what happens! I don't have any experience with looking for and IDing hybrid ducks. This is making me realize that duck ID isn't always cut and dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett H Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 Just discovered one more photo. The bird was hiding in front of a mallard and I didn't notice it until now. It's definitely a lot smaller than the mallard, so teal makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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