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Looks like a young male Vermilion Flycatcher and a Say's Phoebe? I saw this unusual bird at Sante Fe Dam in Irwindale CA.  They have been reported there. One report on ebird had a picture of female Vermilion Flycatcher and it looked just like a Say's Phoebe. is it possible this is a female VF?

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You are correct on both IDs. Female-plumaged Vermilion Flycatchers have pale yellow or salmon colored belies and undertail coverts, and soft gray streaking on the breast, whitish supercilium and brownish ear coverts contrasting with white below on the face.

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21 hours ago, davgrant4 said:

One report on ebird had a picture of female Vermilion Flycatcher and it looked just like a Say's Phoebe

eBirders make tons of mistakes every day. I spend a small portion of most days flagging incorrectly identified subjects of photos submitted to eBird. If I run across a bird mistaken for VEFL, it is nearly always a SAPH.

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