floraphile 174 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 6 Jul 2019 Calgary Stampede grounds, Alberta, Canada. The second shot doesn't look like the same bird, but I think it is, as these were taken in succession. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlexHenry 1,268 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Almost certainly not identifiable from these photos Wing shape looks decent for Broad-wing but I’d just forget about it to be honest. Not really worth speculating in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
floraphile 174 Posted November 29, 2020 Author Share Posted November 29, 2020 When to call something "Unidentifiable" is definitely good information! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlexHenry 1,268 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Did you consider Swainson’s Hawk? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlexHenry 1,268 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 @floraphile based on shape I think this is probably Broad-winged or Swainson’s. Also just because I think it’s unidentifiable doesn’t mean others with more experience won’t be able to ID it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
floraphile 174 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 49 minutes ago, AlexHenry said: Did you consider Swainson’s Hawk? I didn't--I've never knowingly seen a Swainson's. My first reaction was "Broad-Winged", probably because I have seen those. Should I just report it as "Buteo sp."? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlexHenry 1,268 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, floraphile said: Should I just report it as "Buteo sp."? Buteo sp. is probably a good call unless someone else responds on here with a more concrete answer. Without being able to judge size or see the plumage it’s tough, maybe Tony or someone can ID it but I can’t. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron 430 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I’d be more inclined to go with Swainsons, they are by far the most common hawk seen here next to red-tails in the summer. Usually I can see at least 2 every time I go out. Broad-wings are found here usually in migration. This one, if it was a broad-winged, would be flagged as rare by eBird if it were to be reported for this date. You can look at the recent sighting from 2019-2020 for broad wings within the city from June-July and there’s only two reports. Both from 2020 and chased after by multiple people as this year is our once a decade city bird challenge. (I’m losing terribly) Also doesn’t seem compact enough to me for broad winged, but I’ve only seen 3 birds in flight! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony Leukering 2,280 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I agree that it looks much better for Swainson's than for Broad-winged, but buteo sp. works even better. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
floraphile 174 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Aaron said: I’d be more inclined to go with Swainsons, they are by far the most common hawk seen here next to red-tails in the summer. Usually I can see at least 2 every time I go out. Broad-wings are found here usually in migration. This one, if it was a broad-winged, would be flagged as rare by eBird if it were to be reported for this date. You can look at the recent sighting from 2019-2020 for broad wings within the city from June-July and there’s only two reports. Both from 2020 and chased after by multiple people as this year is our once a decade city bird challenge. (I’m losing terribly) Also doesn’t seem compact enough to me for broad winged, but I’ve only seen 3 birds in flight! @Aaron--We loved Calgary. And Banff and Yoho. ❤️ I'm ready to go back--but next time I'll bird! Edited November 30, 2020 by floraphile correction 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron 430 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 There’s a few good birding areas in the city, but it’s best here usually for migration and the winter (despite the cold). We get pretty much every arctic species in and around the city most winters. Drive East for snowy owls and snow buntings and then west for Northern hawk & great gray owls. I actually only really started birding the city this year so I’m actually not too familiar with all the city has to offer. Usually I’d wait until I was in BC! Most of the good areas are in the exact opposite side of the city from me. Always preferred going into the foothills and mountains. A lot better views and far more interesting things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
floraphile 174 Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Aaron said: There’s a few good birding areas in the city, but it’s best here usually for migration and the winter (despite the cold). We get pretty much every arctic species in and around the city most winters. Drive East for snowy owls and snow buntings and then west for Northern hawk & great gray owls. I actually only really started birding the city this year so I’m actually not too familiar with all the city has to offer. Usually I’d wait until I was in BC! Most of the good areas are in the exact opposite side of the city from me. Always preferred going into the foothills and mountains. A lot better views and far more interesting things. We did a lot of "Incidental Birding"--especially in Burnsland Cemetery, near the Stampede grounds. A dedicated birding trip is definitely in order! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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