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I need help in IDing some of the terns in the attached pics. They were photographed at approximately 12 pm on Sept. 14, 2018, at Huguenot Memorial City Park in Duval County, near Jacksonville, FL. Shorebirds are a new challenge for me, so any help and instruction will be most appreciated. In all three pictures, I'm hoping to identify the smaller terns (not the Caspians or Skimmers). Thanks!

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So the big one with the bright red beak I would call a Caspian Tern, note the very red beak and the thickness of it, leads me away from Royal. The smaller terns are more of a guess but I would say immature common. But need a second option on it

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2 hours ago, Jshaw236 said:

So the big one with the bright red beak I would call a Caspian Tern, note the very red beak and the thickness of it, leads me away from Royal. The smaller terns are more of a guess but I would say immature common. But need a second option on it

Thanks--I appreciate the confirmation on the Caspian, and your guess on the Common. I noticed after I posted this that the small tern just right of center in the top photo has a light-tipped beak, which might indicate a Sandwich Tern.

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BTW -- The term "shorebird" is used in birding to refer only to members of a few bird families (though only the 1st, 3rd, 12th, 13th, and 14th are of regular occurrence in the US and Canada):

Scolopacidae -- sandpipers

Rostratulidae -- painted snipe

Jacanidae -- jacana

Thincoridae -- seedsnipe

Pedionomidae -- Plains Wanderer

Glareolidae -- coursers and pratincoles

Pluvianidae -- Egyptian Plover

Dromadidae -- Crab Plover (I really want to see this one!)

Burhinidae -- thick-knees

Pluvianellidae -- Magellanic Plover

Ibidorhynchidae -- Ibisbill (I really, REALLY want to see this one!!)

Recurvirostridae -- avocets and stilts

Haematopodidae -- oystercatchers

Charadriidae -- plovers

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On 9/19/2018 at 10:42 PM, Tony Leukering said:

BTW -- The term "shorebird" is used in birding to refer only to members of a few bird families (though only the 1st, 3rd, 12th, 13th, and 14th are of regular occurrence in the US and Canada):

Scolopacidae -- sandpipers

Rostratulidae -- painted snipe

Jacanidae -- jacana

Thincoridae -- seedsnipe

Pedionomidae -- Plains Wanderer

Glareolidae -- coursers and pratincoles

Pluvianidae -- Egyptian Plover

Dromadidae -- Crab Plover (I really want to see this one!)

Burhinidae -- thick-knees

Pluvianellidae -- Magellanic Plover

Ibidorhynchidae -- Ibisbill (I really, REALLY want to see this one!!)

Recurvirostridae -- avocets and stilts

Haematopodidae -- oystercatchers

Charadriidae -- plovers

Tony, I hope to have a good shot at an Ibisbill soon, as I travel in Central Asia quite often.

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Do you live in Jax?  I go to Huguenot weekly.  If you ever want to meet me there and go around, let me know.  I post regularly on ebird for Huguenot.  My email is in my profile.

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On 9/29/2018 at 7:39 PM, alta said:

Do you live in Jax?  I go to Huguenot weekly.  If you ever want to meet me there and go around, let me know.  I post regularly on ebird for Huguenot.  My email is in my profile.

Our son and daughter-in-law live in Jax, so we've visited them twice in the last two months. We are only in the US for one year (based in VA), so I am getting in as many US species as I can. I would love to have had a guide! Perhaps next time we're down there. Thanks for the offer!

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I'm not an expert, but know Huguenot and Little Talbot, and some of the other parks here.  If you want, go to Huguenot hotspot on ebird and go to my profile.  I am sure I will have posted there recently.  My email is in my ebird profile.

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On 9/19/2018 at 8:34 PM, Tony Leukering said:

Pic 1 -- Caspian and Sandwich

Pic 2 -- Caspian and 2 Commons

Pic 3 -- Caspian and Common

Can someone explain to me why the middle tern in pic 2 is not a Gull-billed? Thanks.

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On 10/6/2018 at 10:03 PM, mills0000 said:

Can someone explain to me why the middle tern in pic 2 is not a Gull-billed? Thanks.

Gull-billeds are not in alternate plumage in Sept, they're larger, and with thicker bases to the bill.

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