RobinHood Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Southern Ontario this morning. I only got a brief glimpse and a couple of photos (similar views) before it disappeared. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Leukering Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Sharp-shinned? It seems to have heavily barred axillars and a notched tail with little, if any, white tip. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tony Leukering said: Sharp-shinned? I thought the same. It just "appeared" quite large at the time plus the pointed wings (maybe just the angle) made me wonder so I thought it worth getting more opinions. Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 My impression (just GISS) was Northern Goshawk. @Tony Leukering Can a NOGO be ruled out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, The Bird Nuts said: My impression (just GISS) was Northern Goshawk. @Tony Leukering Can a NOGO be ruled out? I think a gos would have streaked UTC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Avery said: I think a gos would have streaked UTC Usually they do, but I believe it's not always the case. But I guess the clean white undertail coverts and the shape of the tail on this bird point more toward Sharpie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 21 hours ago, The Bird Nuts said: My impression (just GISS) was Northern Goshawk. @Tony Leukering Can a NOGO be ruled out? That was my first thought too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 It looks much to large for sharp shinned, probably larger than a coop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I just used the Merlin app and it suggests coopers or sharpie, based on the size I’m now going juv female coopers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Cochrane Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 28 minutes ago, IKLland said: I just used the Merlin app and it suggests coopers or sharpie, based on the size I’m now going juv female coopers Merlin should never be trusted with bird identification... it’s only good for suggestions, and often they are incorrect, and it will sometimes not even show the correct species in its recommendations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just now, Connor Cochrane said: Merlin should never be trusted with bird identification... it’s only good for suggestions, and often they are incorrect, and it will sometimes not even show the correct species in its recommendations. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 2 hours ago, IKLland said: It looks much to large for sharp shinned, probably larger than a coop How are you judging the size of the bird with nothing to compare it to? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 It seems that the correct ID is Accipiter sp. Based on the photo alone I would have thought Sharp-shinned but at the time the "apparent" size (first thought was another Red-tailed) and the flap/glide flying pattern had me wondering. I looked at some photos of juveniles and the UTC markings do vary quite a bit, some showing no obvious streaking. Tried to spot it again today but no luck. Thanks everyone for the feedback. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Shank Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Sharp-shinned? It seems to have heavily barred axillars and a notched tail with little, if any, white tip. I agree with Sharp-shinned Hawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 5 hours ago, RobinHood said: It seems that the correct ID is Accipiter sp. Based on the photo alone I would have thought Sharp-shinned but at the time the "apparent" size (first thought was another Red-tailed) and the flap/glide flying pattern had me wondering. I looked at some photos of juveniles and the UTC markings do vary quite a bit, some showing no obvious streaking. Tried to spot it again today but no luck. Thanks everyone for the feedback. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Charlie Spencer said: How are you judging the size of the bird with nothing to compare it to? Thanks! At first I estimate the size f wings but you’re right, you can’t. accipiter sp seems correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinmt Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 The thin crisp streaks on the breast and lack of any UTC markings are leaning to juvi COHA for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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