Miss Marge Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Another photo from Sauble Beach, Ontario in August a few years back. There is a branch in front of the bird and the lighting isn't so great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) Wait for an expert, but I will though out a guess, palm warbler?? Edited December 23, 2020 by IKLland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Looks better for an Eastern Phoebe to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Is that a white eye stripe? Or a branch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Just now, IKLland said: Is that a white eye stripe? Or a branch? It's a twig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, The Bird Nuts said: Looks better for an Eastern Phoebe to me. Bill and posture look off for EAPH to me. But admittedly the best I can do rn is warbler sp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Shank Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Agree with Eastern Phoebe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Leukering Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 11 hours ago, The Bird Nuts said: Looks better for an Eastern Phoebe to me. 2 hours ago, Jefferson Shank said: Agree with Eastern Phoebe. It's got a yellow throat and the bill is narrow. Palm Warbler. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 I would have thought phoebe as well, if it had not been for the bill is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 I think the bill could appear thinner than it is because of the light behind it. Some of the twigs have that affect as well. This bird does not look like a warbler to me, and EAPH is the best I can suggest 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Avery said: I think the bill could appear thinner than it is because of the light behind it. Some of the twigs have that affect as well. This. Also the yellow on the throat and belly is most likely a reflection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbirds Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, The Bird Nuts said: This. Also the yellow on the throat and belly is most likely a reflection. Alright, I’m in the phoebe camp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birding Boy Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 I am another for a Phoebe for the reasons mentioned already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 p 6 hours ago, Tony Leukering said: It's got a yellow throat and the bill is narrow. Palm Warbler. That is why I thought palm as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Shank Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 7 for eastern phoebe and 2 for palm warbler. Anybody else have thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 @Charlie Spencerany thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Even without the shape of the bird, the patterning and coloration of this bird, yellow reflections aside, this does not seem like a palm warbler to me. Thee lack of defined color patterns I would recognize on a palm aren’t present, while the scruffy, disorganized look of a Phoebe is there. As for the shape of the bird, I can’t turn this into a warbler. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Avery said: Even without the shape of the bird, the patterning and coloration of this bird, yellow reflections aside, this does not seem like a palm warbler to me. Thee lack of defined color patterns I would recognize on a palm aren’t present, while the scruffy, disorganized look of a Phoebe is there. As for the shape of the bird, I can’t turn this into a warbler. what about the bill? i still think palm warbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Cochrane Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 I feel like a supercillium would be visible here if it was palm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jefferson Shank Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 what about the bill? i still think palm warbler I think the bill could appear thinner than it is because of the light behind it. Some of the twigs have that affect as well. This bird does not look like a warbler to me, and EAPH is the best I can suggest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Thomas Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 A little out of my depth here, but given that I have eastern phoebes hanging out in my yard every day, I just can't see this bird as being one of them. They, along with northern mockingbirds, are my way too frequently seen semi-disappointment birds...lol. I don't buy the yellow being an optical illusion here, nor there being a significant bill thinning visual effect in play either. I'm definitely not willing to guess at what it is (I've never even seen a palm warbler), other than it not being an eastern phoebe. Mediocre photos of Eastern phoebe shot today attached for convenient reference (south Texas winter coloring if it matters). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Avery said: As for the shape of the bird, I can’t turn this into a warbler. Interesting, I can't turn this into anything other than a warbler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan B Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 I've been undecided with this one, but I feel like it is more like a warbler than a phoebe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Phoebes in August can be pretty messy and their bills can look long when they lose the feathers around the base. Check out these photos: https://search.macaulaylibrary.org/catalog?bmo=8&taxonCode=easpho&mr=MCUSTOM&emo=8&q=Eastern Phoebe - Sayornis phoebe And @Avery is right, backlighting can make things look very thin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, The Bird Nuts said: Phoebes in August can be pretty messy and their bills can look long when they lose the feathers around the base. Check out these photos: https://search.macaulaylibrary.org/catalog?bmo=8&taxonCode=easpho&mr=MCUSTOM&emo=8&q=Eastern Phoebe - Sayornis phoebe And @Avery is right, backlighting can make things look very thin. Many of the photos show juvenile EAPhs, which have buffy cinnamon colored tips to the wing coverts in the forms of wing bars (evident in many of the photos). This bird lacks them if it was in fact a "messy" juvenile EAPH. Also, just curious how you determined the yellow was a reflection? The picture looks like it was taken on a relatively cloudy/overcast day to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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