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Taken 12-25-2020 in the afternoon near Haskell Creek in the Sepulveda Basin, Van Nuys, CA.

I hardly ever get sparrows at my house -- only an occasional White-crowned.  And the places I normally go, if I see any its only two or three.  But on Christmas day I found where all the sparrows hang out.  I may have seen 50 to 100.

Of the attached photos, I believe they are all Savannah, except for the 3rd one a Song, and the last one (no. 11) I have no idea.  But some of those that I've identified as Savannah may actually be Song.

Comments please.

 

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10 minutes ago, Birding Boy said:

Any other shots of #11? I think it is a Song Sparrow, but its tough to tell. Not many other options though.

Only one other frame of #11, but it is essentially identical.  I realized I needed to go to manual focus to get through the twigs, but by the time I did, the bird took off.

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All are song except the #10 and 11. 10 is vesper, but I don’t know the last one. The dark stripes on buff should be good, as well as the small triangular bill. I am unfamiliar with western sparrows. 
edit: sorry, didn’t see the other posts

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28 minutes ago, Jefferson Shank said:

1-9. Savannah Sparrow

10. Vesper Sparrow

11. Song Sparrow

What pointed you to song for 11? Is there a subspecies with those buffy flanks? I can see a songish facial pattern, I’m just wondering for education purposes. 

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2 minutes ago, Avery said:

What pointed you to song for 11? Is there a subspecies with those buffy flanks? I can see a songish facial pattern, I’m just wondering for education purposes. 

That tail is all Song Sparrow. Note how long the tail is and the rounded tips are diagnostic versus Lincoln's or Savannah, which show straight or "sharp" edges to the rectrices.

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What pointed you to song for 11? Is there a subspecies with those buffy flanks? I can see a songish facial pattern, I’m just wondering for education purposes. 

 

That tail is all Song Sparrow. Note how long the tail is and the rounded tips are diagnostic versus Lincoln's or Savannah, which show straight or "sharp" edges to the rectrices.

Also note the thickness of the beak and the thick streaks on its side and breast.

 

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10 minutes ago, Dan P said:

The eBird bar charts for this area shows a low frequency of observations throughout the fall, but no observations after the 2nd week of December.

I’m not sure about Southern California, but this was a good fall for them in the Bay Area.

Usually in areas where they are rare, Vesper Sparrows are found mixed in with flocks of Savannah Sparrows, at least in my experience.

Always cool to find a rare bird! That is 100% a Vesper Sparrow by the way.

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7 minutes ago, Dan P said:

The eBird bar charts for this area shows a low frequency of observations throughout the fall, but no observations after the 2nd week of December.

Actually, I found a more precise location on eBird charts:  Los Angeles River - Sepulveda Basin

It shows a low frequency of Vesper Sparrows in Sept/Oct, and the last week of Feb.  No observations in Nov/Dec/Jan.

This bird was photographed on the bank of Haskell Creek, right at the confluence with the Los Angeles River.

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1 hour ago, DLecy said:

Good bird for sure this time of year. Did you post to eBird? Could still be a count week for the local CBC.

I just posted that one Vesper Sparrow to eBird.  I had created an eBird account a few weeks ago and posted one short checklist as a test.  So this is my second posting.  Thanks.

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