Aidan B 536 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) Is this Ruber? If so it is quiet rare for this area. It seems to have very limited white on the face and yellow on the belly. However the back is not as black as the photos of Ruber I've seen and the white lines seem to be too wide. Edited January 6 by Aidan B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IKLland 286 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 @Connor Cochrane @DLecy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MichaelLong 347 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 intergrade? are those a thing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlexHenry 1,272 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 No need to call it anything other than Red-breasted Sapsucker 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DLecy 300 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 19 minutes ago, AlexHenry said: No need to call it anything other than Red-breasted Sapsucker Completely agree. With these photos I would be hesitant to ID the bird to ssp. It's much more likely a daggetti due to back pattern and the head is less bright than on ruber, but who knows how many pure RBSA there are out there anyways? I'd leave it at Red-breasted Sapsucker. Typical ruber back patterning is much more faint and less pronounced than daggetti. Like this. https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/185447741#_ga=2.113076934.314690642.1607699442-635920480.1580272015 To quote Peter Pyle though "it's possible that no sapsuckers in western North America are completely "pure" in the genetic sense, so we have to draw lines somewhere." 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Connor Cochrane 2,182 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 I had one of these intermediate birds like yours today. It's back looked different than a normal daggetti and it's head glowed, something I've never seen on one of my normal birds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aidan B 536 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 18 minutes ago, Connor Cochrane said: it's head glowed This was certainly noticable with this sapsucker, the bright head is what caught my eye when I first saw it. It was a more vibrant shade of red. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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