Bitzgirl7 7 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Renfrew Cty. On. Jan. 7, 2021 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IKLland 601 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I say borealis but I am unsure. @Connor Cochraneor @DLecycould give you a certain identification Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avery 1,063 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I say borealis. The malar should "drip" into the belly band in an abieticola. The belly band would be much bigger as well, being pinched in the middle, almost resembling a Roughie when perched. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Birding Boy 1,574 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, Avery said: I say borealis. The malar should "drip" into the belly band in an abieticola. The belly band would be much bigger as well, being pinched in the middle, almost resembling a Roughie when perched. Agreed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bitzgirl7 7 Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 We observed this one on Dec. 17, 2020 and was identified and further confirmed as an Abieticola. I think I see why you mention the malar and belly band. Much thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DLecy 457 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I believe this taxon is currently considered simply a form of B. j. borealis, and nothing more. BOW - "Although B. j. abeitcola was initially recognized by Dickerman and Parkes (Dickerman and Parkes 1987) and Dickerman (Dickerman 1989a), its heavy markings are not restricted to the boreal region of e. Canada from which Todd (Todd 1950) described it (Wheeler 2003b)." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avery 1,063 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 (edited) You can still report an abieticola on eBird though. eBird is weird. 😋 Edited January 8 by Avery Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chipperatl 451 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I report that as an abieticola. Not the perfect specimen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DLecy 457 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 25 minutes ago, Avery said: You can still report an abieticola on eBird though. eBird is weird. 😋 Agreed. You can also report a "Krider's" RTHA on eBird and it is not classified as a distinct subspecies. B. j. “kriderii” does not have a breeding range distinct from those of other subspecies, meaning it cannot, by definition, be a valid subspecies; instead, its breeding range occupies the sw. portion of that of B. j. borealis, and it winters chiefly in the Great Plains (Dickerman 1989a). 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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