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Neat encounter at the pond near my house in the Charleston, SC area. Spotted a Hawk in the tree then another on the alligator warning sign as I was trying to get closer to photograph the one in the tree. I don’t see a red tail, nor red shoulders. Could these be juveniles? So I need help with a positive ID of each.  Thank you. 

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Thank you Kevin. Is it the time of year, the red shoulders not really showing? I usually don’t think of Hawks as cute. But the young one on the sign has a cute face. Could the one in the tree be the mother?

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7 minutes ago, cccougar said:

Bird Brain- The headline was supposed to read Hawk Help. That is a good question you raise whether these hawks are he’s or she’s! Can anyone answer that and provide the insights? 

There are no plumage differences and you can only tell male from female if they are together as the females are larger than the males.  Otherwise, we can't tell from photos like these.

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1 hour ago, cccougar said:

Bird Brain- The headline was supposed to read Hawk Help. That is a good question you raise whether these hawks are he’s or she’s! Can anyone answer that and provide the insights? 

I thought that's what it was meant to say. I was trying to be funny, but I'm glad it raised the question. I agree with The Bird Nuts reply that you pretty much have to see them together to distinguish male from female.

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4 hours ago, The Bird Nuts said:

I don't see why they're not both adults.  Juveniles don't have orange barring on the breast or black on the wings.  By the way that black and white wing pattern plus the thin white bands on a black tail is diagnostic.

Your right. Sorry.

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18 hours ago, The Bird Nuts said:

I don't see why they're not both adults.  Juveniles don't have orange barring on the breast or black on the wings.  By the way that black and white wing pattern plus the thin white bands on a black tail is diagnostic.

Agree

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