floraphile Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 16 Jan 2021 Mobile co. AL Public lake & park 1. Male & female Redheads 2. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan B Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) Bird two is a Rock Wren, a very good bird where you are at. Looks like the fourth state record according to ebird. Redheads are correct for the first birds. Edited January 16, 2021 by Aidan B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexHenry Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Admittedly Rock Wren was my first thought as well. But given the rarity of Rock Wren in that location, and the quality of photo (doesn’t give us very much information to work with), I am very hesitant. Can we positively rule out any other possibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Aidan B said: Bird two is a Rock Wren, a very good bird where you are at. Looks like the fourth state record according to ebird. Redheads are correct for the first birds. Wow! I was guessing American Pipit--I'm not familiar with either of those species, and have neither on my Life List. Redhead is also a Lifer for me. Today was a good birding day. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan B Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, AlexHenry said: But given the rarity of Rock Wren in that location, and the quality of photo (doesn’t give us very much information to work with), I am very hesitant. Can we positively rule out any other possibility? I've been trying to see if there is anything that seems similar, but I'm having a hard time thinking of anything. The habitat around it the bird, is exactly what they like, which also played a big part in deciding on Rock Wren. @floraphile is there any more photos of the second bird, even very blurry shots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) @AlexHenry @Aidan B--The bird stayed pretty much on the ground in a very muddy/marshy area where a stream empties into a lake, and fussed at me the entire time. I am attaching a second photo which may or may not be the same bird, as he dashed into some nearby brush. This second photo shows some color & a probable eye ring, but little else, as it is entirely too blurry. Edited January 16, 2021 by floraphile typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 Could it not be an American Pipit? @Aidan B @AlexHenry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan B Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 The second photo looks like a Carolina Wren. Not a pipit for sure, their color is almost a tan-yellow, and they have lots of streaking on the underparts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 How are we ruling out just a normal house wren? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) In the original posted photo of the bird on the rocks, for whatever reason, there seems to be some distortion in the image, like I was shooting through glass, but I was not. This particular camera (Sony RX10 iv) is not my favorite for bird shots, but it is the most convenient camera to use when I want to be less encumbered with gear. Edited January 16, 2021 by floraphile clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 33 minutes ago, Aaron said: How are we ruling out just a normal house wren? @AaronWhat about a Sedge Wren? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasan Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 This is definitely not buffy enough to be a Sedge, Marsh or Carolina Wren. However, while this superficially looks similar to Rock Wren, something just seems off with the GISS IMO. I've seen bunches of them and this just strikes me as a particularly dull House Wren. Notice that really short bill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 For now, I have it on ebird as "wren sp." with the accompanying photo. Are such entries reviewed [by ebird] if there is a photo or just ignored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexHenry Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, floraphile said: For now, I have it on ebird as "wren sp." with the accompanying photo. Are such entries reviewed [by ebird] if there is a photo or just ignored? Depends if "wren sp." is flagged by the filter or not. House Wren seems like the most logical suggestion. But the great thing about birding is that not every single bird needs to be identified 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Other eBirders can flag as it the wrong species if they come across the photo and feel that it’s wrong. Which will go to the eBird reviewer. I don’t know if people actively try to ID ‘sp.’ photos though on eBird.. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 hours ago, floraphile said: 1. Male & female Redheads 2 hours ago, Aidan B said: Redheads are correct for the first birds. Is the right most duck not a Canvasback? It has a smooth slope from head to bill, not the steeper one of Redheads. Also it has a sharp bend at the neck, from my experience Redheads have more of a curve there. The head seems to be the same color as the rest of the body, I think that is just the lighting though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Just now, Kevin said: Is the right most duck not a Canvasback? It has a smooth slope from head to bill, not the steeper one of Redheads. Also it has a sharp bend at the neck, from my experience Redheads have more of a curve there. The head seems to be the same color as the rest of the body, I think that is just the lighting though. It has the wrong bill pattern for a canvasback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birding Boy Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Aaron said: It has the wrong bill pattern for a canvasback And is the same size, if not larger than the male Redhead at left. Canvasback should be noticeably bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Leukering Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Aaron said: How are we ruling out just a normal house wren? Indeed. The bill is nowhere near long enough for either Rock or Carolina. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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