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I really do appreciate you folks, but sometimes you make me feel really dumb. Being color blind doesn't help, but sometimes I seem to miss things you folks see easily. At any rate, thank you. I have two more pictures from the last couple months that I need help with. Both were taken in Boulder Colorado. I believe the jay is either a blue jay or a Steller's jay, and I have no idea about the hawk. 

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