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Crows / Ravens ?

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Taken 2-11-2021 in Glendale, CA.

I think the one with the Red-tailed is a crow, but I wouldn't be able to identify it by this photo or the few others that I have of it.

The other I think is a raven, but I'm not sure.  I don't know if the small apparent wedge shape in the closed up tail is enough to ID it as a raven.



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