Miss Marge 25 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 I think this is a Herring Gull, but I did take a bunch of pictures as there was a reported Iceland Gull in the area. I struggle with Gull identification. Taken in Toronto, Canada yesterday, Feb. 21, 2021 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jefferson Shank 1,978 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Both of these are Ring-billed Gulls. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Birding Boy 1,554 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 The right bird is a Herring/Thayers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jefferson Shank 1,978 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 The right bird is a Herring/Thayers. Uhh... Yes, you are right. Thanks for the correction! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Birding Boy 1,554 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Jefferson Shank said: Uhh... Yes, you are right. Thanks for the correction! No problem! I think people with more experience could provide more input, @Miss Margedo you have any additional profile shots? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hasan 104 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) I don't think the right bird could be a Thayer's/Herring simply due to size. I'm no expert so I don't want to jump the gun but that bicolored bill, diminutive size, and dark plumage seemingly leaves only one species, no? Curious as to others' thoughts. Edited February 23 by Hasan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Birding Boy 1,554 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 6 minutes ago, Hasan said: I don't think the right bird could be a Thayer's/Herring simply due to size. I'm no expert so I don't want to jump the gun but that bicolored bill, diminutive size, and dark plumage seemingly leaves only one species, no? Curious as to others' thoughts. Yeah...I think you’re right. Sorry @Jefferson Shank, I probably shouldn’t be making ids on 6 hours of sleep! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlexHenry 1,425 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Would be nice to have more of a profile shot of the bird on the right. However, it appears to be a first winter individual of a 4-year gull, not a 3-year gull like a Ring-billed. The reasoning being that the mantle/scapular feathers look white and brown, not gray as they would be on a Ring-billed. I think it could well be a Thayer’s, looks most like Thayer’s to me (size/structure and plumage-wise), but I’m not sure we can really definitely ID it with these looks (and the pink in the bill seems a bit much for 1st winter Thayer’s). I could be wrong as well! Hopefully some others can chime in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hasan 104 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 9 minutes ago, AlexHenry said: Would be nice to have more of a profile shot of the bird on the right. However, it appears to be a first winter individual of a 4-year gull, not a 3-year gull like a Ring-billed. The reasoning being that the mantle/scapular feathers look white and brown, not gray as they would be on a Ring-billed. I think it could well be a Thayer’s, looks most like Thayer’s to me (size/structure and plumage-wise), but I’m not sure we can really definitely ID it with these looks (and the pink in the bill seems a bit much for 1st winter Thayer’s). I could be wrong as well! Hopefully some others can chime in. Of course, pretty clearly, this is a four year gull. However, can first or second cycle Thayer's show a clearly bicolored bill? It's not something I'm used to seeing, and I did a preliminary search on eBird and could not find a comparable gull to this one. Edited February 23 by Hasan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jefferson Shank 1,978 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Yeah...I think you’re right. Sorry @Jefferson Shank, I probably shouldn’t be making ids on 6 hours of sleep! ¡No hay problema! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony Leukering 2,531 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 hours ago, Hasan said: I don't think the right bird could be a Thayer's/Herring simply due to size. I'm no expert so I don't want to jump the gun but that bicolored bill, diminutive size, and dark plumage seemingly leaves only one species, no? Curious as to others' thoughts. Herring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlexHenry 1,425 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 4 hours ago, Hasan said: However, can first or second cycle Thayer's show a clearly bicolored bill? Well it’s pretty typical for second winter Thayer’s to have a clearly bicolored bill But yes it would be unusual for a first winter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hasan 104 Posted Tuesday at 01:36 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:36 PM 7 hours ago, AlexHenry said: Well it’s pretty typical for second winter Thayer’s to have a clearly bicolored bill But yes it would be unusual for a first winter. Right, but third cycle would be much more adult-like, with a grayish mantle and more whiteish underparts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Spencer 3,392 Posted Tuesday at 03:19 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:19 PM 10 hours ago, Tony Leukering said: Herring. I'm a bit surprised no one pointed out (noticed?) the pink legs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Bird Nuts 4,585 Posted Tuesday at 03:20 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:20 PM (edited) 3 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said: I'm a bit surprised no one pointed out (noticed?) the pink legs. Young Ring-billed Gulls also have pink legs. Edited Tuesday at 03:22 PM by The Bird Nuts 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Spencer 3,392 Posted Tuesday at 03:25 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:25 PM 4 minutes ago, The Bird Nuts said: Young Ring-billed Gulls also have pink legs. Well, that explains that! Gracias. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seanbirds 711 Posted Tuesday at 04:35 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:35 PM 14 hours ago, Jefferson Shank said: ¡No hay problema! 1 hour ago, Charlie Spencer said: Gracias. Why are we all speaking Spanish all of a sudden? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Connor Cochrane 2,624 Posted Tuesday at 04:39 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:39 PM (edited) Double Post. My bad Edited Tuesday at 04:40 PM by Connor Cochrane Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Connor Cochrane 2,624 Posted Tuesday at 04:40 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:40 PM 3 minutes ago, Seanbirds said: Why are we all speaking Spanish all of a sudden? ¿Por Que No? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seanbirds 711 Posted Tuesday at 04:45 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:45 PM Just now, Connor Cochrane said: ¿Por Que No? No lo sé. Me estaba preguntando. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Spencer 3,392 Posted Tuesday at 04:59 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:59 PM Mi madre es muy gorda? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Connor Cochrane 2,624 Posted Tuesday at 05:02 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:02 PM 1 minute ago, Charlie Spencer said: Mi madre es muy gorda? Sí. Ustedes madres es muy gorda 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seanbirds 711 Posted Tuesday at 05:02 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:02 PM 2 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said: Mi madre es muy gorda? ¿Qué tiene eso que ver con esto? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Connor Cochrane 2,624 Posted Tuesday at 05:05 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:05 PM 2 minutes ago, Seanbirds said: ¿Qué tiene eso que ver con esto? Nice Google Translate 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seanbirds 711 Posted Tuesday at 05:06 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:06 PM Just now, Connor Cochrane said: Nice Google Translate How’d you know? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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