floraphile Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 3 Mar 2021 Baldwin co. AL I think this is a female Ruby-throat, but...the tail looks short relative to the wing. Others have been seeing Black-chinned & an Anna's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Leukering Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 The bill is way too short to be a BCHU bill. The inner primaries look wide, which would rule out BCHU and RTHU. It certainly looks dumpy enough for an ANHU, but I’ll let the West Coast folks who know the species better than I chime in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan B Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) This doesn't feel like an Anna's to me... The throat is so clean. Edited March 4, 2021 by Aidan B 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Aidan B said: This doesn't feel like an Anna's to me... The throat is so clean. What do you think it is? Edited March 4, 2021 by floraphile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan B Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, floraphile said: What do you think it is? I'm not really sure, I've been looking at lot of photos, and Anna's probably matches best out of anything. Is there any possibility that this is a Broad-tailed Hummingbird with very very limited rufous sides? I have no experience with that species so I don't know what to look for. Edited March 4, 2021 by Aidan B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasan Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) Definitely not a Broad-tailed, which has an elongated look. I'll concur with Anna's Edited March 4, 2021 by Hasan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Rufous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasan Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Just now, IKLland said: Rufous. I'm fairly certain this is not a Rufous, considering, for one, the lack of any rufous with at best (perhaps) a barely visible slight buffy wash on the flanks. That said, it's generally more helpful to say why you think an ID is correct rather than simply claiming that it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hasan said: I'm fairly certain this is not a Rufous, considering, for one, the lack of any rufous with at best (perhaps) a barely visible slight buffy wash on the flanks. That said, it's generally more helpful to say why you think an ID is correct rather than simply claiming that it is. Ok thanks for giving that tip! I am very new to birding( if you didn’t know already). Only seriously birding since October, and have little experience. I just brightened the pic, and agree, not rufous. This might sound nuts but what about Costas? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexHenry Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Looks most like a Ruby-throated to me. I can’t rule out Costa’s or Anna’s though. I can’t see the primary shapes in the photo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Can’t range alone rule out costas? That’d be quite the rarity.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Cochrane Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 My vote is Ruby-throated. Doesn’t seem like Anna’s to me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasan Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, Aaron said: Can’t range alone rule out costas? That’d be quite the rarity.... Range is not super useful when it comes to rare hummingbirds. Though Costa's is generally a desert specialist, consider that Michigan alone has records of Mexican Violetear, Berylline Hummingbird, and White-eared Hummingbird, all species that are rare in the entire US, let alone Michagan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) I sent the pic to the bander, and he thinks it's probably a Ruby-throated. He will be here Saturday to band, so maybe he can give me a definite ID then. Edited March 4, 2021 by floraphile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Hasan said: Range is not super useful when it comes to rare hummingbirds. Though Costa's is generally a desert specialist, consider that Michigan alone has records of Mexican Violetear, Berylline Hummingbird, and White-eared Hummingbird, all species that are rare in the entire US, let alone Michagan. Are hummingbirds just more prone to dispersing way out of range than other birds? I know Anna’s do that quite regularly but I always thought they were just a bit special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Aidan B said: This doesn't feel like an Anna's to me... The throat is so clean. Agreed. Not an ANHU. 25 minutes ago, Connor Cochrane said: My vote is Ruby-throated. Doesn’t seem like Anna’s to me. This. I am having trouble seeing the inner primaries but everything els about it feels lilke RTHU to me. At the very least an Archilochus sp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 3 hours ago, AlexHenry said: Looks most like a Ruby-throated to me. I can’t rule out Costa’s or Anna’s though. I can’t see the primary shapes in the photo I have never seen an Anna's that clean below (throat, sides of breast, belly) and "contrasty" before. Structure would appear to rule out Costa's as this bird feels much more like a RTHU than a female Costa's to me based on wing length relative to tail and the fact that the bird doesn't necessarily look small and compact but rather pot-bellied and dumpy in this photo. I wish I could see the inner primaries better though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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