MicahM 2 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 SE PA. Looked more or less like a Herring gull to me, but I'm not terribly experienced with gulls, and it stood out in the crowd as being significantly paler overall and underwing and noticeably smaller than the other Herring gulls. Included are a farther out shot to show scale to other Herring gulls, and then some closer pictures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony Leukering 3,374 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Herring, indeed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IKLland 1,289 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 hours ago, Tony Leukering said: Herring, indeed agreed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aidan B 1,491 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 6 hours ago, Tony Leukering said: Herring, indeed Why is this Herring and not Thayer's? Not disagreeing with the ID but just trying to understand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IKLland 1,289 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 10 hours ago, Aidan B said: Why is this Herring and not Thayer's? Not disagreeing with the ID but just trying to understand. I think it’s the large head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aidan B 1,491 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) I'm going to bump this again, the P10 on the underside of the opposite wing is clearly pale, and the size fits Thayer's well. The bird also appears very dove like. I'm confused why this is a Herring. Edited March 8 by Aidan B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aidan B 1,491 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Why is this gull a Herring and not a Thayer's? I'm very confused. @AlexHenry @DLecy @Connor Cochrane @Tony Leukering Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hasan 498 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 FWIW, I think the angle makes the bill appear deceptively small/short. I would probably lean Herring because of the bill, but it's not necessarily a straightforward bird. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony Leukering 3,374 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 First-cycle THGUs generally have extensively black bills still in Feb-Mar and they also typically have noticeable pale fringes to the outer primaries (as here). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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