lonestranger Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 20 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said: Unrelated to any previous posts in this thread, but I thought it wasn't possible for others to rate (or even see) an unconfirmed photo. I don't use eBird so I am just grasping at straws here, but I wonder if unconfirmed bird photos can be shared and rated by simply sharing a link to the photo before confirmation is made. The photo might not show up in eBird until confirmation but a link directly to an unconfirmed bird photo would still take you to that photo, wouldn't it? I'm not sure if the rating option would be there, but the link should still work, I think. Just tossing out ideas with nothing more than my imagination to base them on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, lonestranger said: I don't use eBird so I am just grasping at straws here, but I wonder if unconfirmed bird photos can be shared and rated by simply sharing a link to the photo before confirmation is made. The photo might not show up in eBird until confirmation but a link directly to an unconfirmed bird photo would still take you to that photo, wouldn't it? I'm not sure if the rating option would be there, but the link should still work, I think. Just tossing out ideas with nothing more than my imagination to base them on. When someone enters a checklist in eBird, that person can add photos audio to each species in the checklist. He or she can see them whether they confirmed or not, but I recall others viewing a checklist cannot see an unconfirmed species or its attached photos. For example, you should not see the unconfirmed Egyptian Goose on this checklist of mine: https://ebird.org/checklist/S67828413 When you add photos or audio to an eBird checklist, they're also automatically added to Cornell's online Macaulay Library. It's a collection of all media that's added to eBird checklists, with 37 million media files. It's a separate application from eBird, with different capabilities, including the option for viewers to rate photos. A photo that's unconfirmed in eBird is tagged as unconfirmed in Macaulay too. My understanding was that unconfirmed photos in Mac had the same rules applied to them as eBird, that the anyone other than the person posting the list would not be able to see them until they were confirmed. If that's the case, people shouldn't be able to rate them if they indeed can't actually see them. If that's the case, you shouldn't be able to see (or rate) this currently unconfirmed photo, regardless of whether you reach it from the original checklist, a search within Mac, or a link shared elsewhere (like this one). https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/435846931 Edited April 16 by Charlie Spencer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestranger Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 4 hours ago, Charlie Spencer said: When someone enters a checklist in eBird, that person can add photos audio to each species in the checklist. He or she can see them whether they confirmed or not, but I recall others viewing a checklist cannot see an unconfirmed species or its attached photos. For example, you should not see the unconfirmed Egyptian Goose on this checklist of mine: https://ebird.org/checklist/S67828413 When you add photos or audio to an eBird checklist, they're also automatically added to Cornell's online Macaulay Library. It's a collection of all media that's added to eBird checklists, with 37 million media files. It's a separate application from eBird, with different capabilities, including the option for viewers to rate photos. A photo that's unconfirmed in eBird is tagged as unconfirmed in Macaulay too. My understanding was that unconfirmed photos in Mac had the same rules applied to them as eBird, that the anyone other than the person posting the list would not be able to see them until they were confirmed. If that's the case, people shouldn't be able to rate them if they indeed can't actually see them. If that's the case, you shouldn't be able to see (or rate) this currently unconfirmed photo, regardless of whether you reach it from the original checklist, a search within Mac, or a link shared elsewhere (like this one). https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/435846931 It may be a timing thing, but I can see both Egyptian Goose images from the checklist, and the Cap May Warbler which has three ratings so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 2 minutes ago, lonestranger said: It may be a timing thing, but I can see both Egyptian Goose images from the checklist, and the Cap May Warbler which has three ratings so far. Nah, the goose has been up for a couple of years. Maybe I'm wrong (again) about unconfirmed being hidden from others. I'm used to it. Edited April 16 by Charlie Spencer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestranger Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 41 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said: Maybe I'm wrong (again) about unconfirmed being hidden from others. I'm used to it. To use your previous library reference, I am thinking that uploading a photo to eBird is like putting a book/photo on the shelf in a library/eBird, but the librarian/eBird hasn't entered the info into the catalog yet. The book/photo is available to anyone who knows what shelf it's on, but that information isn't public knowledge so it's basically hidden, except for those who know where to look or those who are told where to look. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 6 minutes ago, lonestranger said: To use your previous library reference, I am thinking that uploading a photo to eBird is like putting a book/photo on the shelf in a library/eBird, but the librarian/eBird hasn't entered the info into the catalog yet. The book/photo is available to anyone who knows what shelf it's on, but that information isn't public knowledge so it's basically hidden, except for those who know where to look or those who are told where to look. Well, they're accepted now. I knew they would be eventually, I was just surprised people had been able to rate them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Five? This is a two from me. https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/341332241?_gl=1*192ocgd*_ga*MTk1NTMxODc5My4xNTkyODczOTY3*_ga_QR4NVXZ8BM*MTY1MDE0NjIyMy43MDUuMS4xNjUwMTQ2MjI1LjU4#_ga=2.43205920.484970456.1649033801-1955318793.1592873967 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 44 minutes ago, IKLland said: Five? This is a two from me. https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/341332241?_gl=1*192ocgd*_ga*MTk1NTMxODc5My4xNTkyODczOTY3*_ga_QR4NVXZ8BM*MTY1MDE0NjIyMy43MDUuMS4xNjUwMTQ2MjI1LjU4#_ga=2.43205920.484970456.1649033801-1955318793.1592873967 Well, it's underexposed, but it makes up for it by being slightly out of focus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 12 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said: Well, it's underexposed, but it makes up for it by being slightly out of focus. It’s out of focus, underexposed, and the lighting is terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 @Charlie Spencer @lonestranger I've tested this, and you can see unconfirmed species on a checklist. As for unconfirmed media, you can see it if you use the filter 'show unconfirmed' when searching the Macaulay library. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 9 hours ago, Quiscalus quiscula said: I've tested this, and you can see unconfirmed species on a checklist. As for unconfirmed media, you can see it if you use the filter 'show unconfirmed' when searching the Macaulay library. QQ taking one for the team! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 This guy has great under-rated photos. https://ebird.org/media/catalog?mediaType=p&sort=rating_rank_desc&searchField=user®ionCode=US&includeUnconfirmed=T&userId=USER92999 His articles are also a big part of the reason I got obsessed with birds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Five? This is maybe a four. https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/436224561 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Five? https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/437426281?_gl=1*x7n5qw*_ga*MTk1NTMxODc5My4xNTkyODczOTY3*_ga_QR4NVXZ8BM*MTY1MDM5ODU1NC43MTguMS4xNjUwMzk5ODk0LjYw#_ga=2.13395506.484970456.1649033801-1955318793.1592873967 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 8 hours ago, IKLland said: Five? This is maybe a four. https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/436224561 Four. 3 hours ago, IKLland said: Five? https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/437426281?_gl=1*x7n5qw*_ga*MTk1NTMxODc5My4xNTkyODczOTY3*_ga_QR4NVXZ8BM*MTY1MDM5ODU1NC43MTguMS4xNjUwMzk5ODk0LjYw#_ga=2.13395506.484970456.1649033801-1955318793.1592873967 Three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 14 hours ago, Quiscalus quiscula said: Four. Three. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 On 8/17/2021 at 3:39 PM, PalmWarbler said: How is this a 5?? https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/360486001 It’s a five. IMO, a photo like this is very rare, and everything is great technically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmWarbler Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 17 hours ago, IKLland said: It’s a five. IMO, a photo like this is very rare, and everything is great technically. Sorry lol that was like a year ago when I didn't really know anything about photography 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 1 hour ago, PalmWarbler said: Sorry lol that was like a year ago when I didn't really know anything about photography I must have been on the wrong page, as I had no clue that wasn’t form today.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipperatl Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 New pic has dethroned the Spoon-billed Sandpiper on eBird. https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/413988131#_ga=2.50916842.2301955.1650668854-382840800.1650668854 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmWarbler Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 This contributor has some nice underrated shots. https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/367866871 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/364975531 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/362974571 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanager 101 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 https://search.macaulaylibrary.org/catalog?searchField=user&userId=USER724810&sort=rating_rank_desc This person has some amazing photos with hardly any ratings! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/423635441#_ga=2.46377506.484970456.1649033801-1955318793.1592873967 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Really nice photo https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/441449281#_ga=2.18614844.484970456.1649033801-1955318793.1592873967 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Now Here’s an amazing photographer with barely any rates! Make sure you look at a ton of these shots! https://search.macaulaylibrary.org/catalog?searchField=user&userId=USER402670#_ga=2.47278370.484970456.1649033801-1955318793.1592873967 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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