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17 minutes ago, Birding Boy said:

Welp it was just rate bombed again. Guess I shoulda waited a few days before uploading that one. Someone else just uploaded a bunch of willet photos which are on the best of the day, kinda sus...

None of his Willet photos are on the ETP (Ebird top photos).

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Anybody else notice that over the last week, a couple times all of the photos on eBirds best of the day have been rate bombed with some very low ratings? They will be really high up and then everything will gain one or two ratings and some with fewer ratings will change to four stars and the others, while they will still retain the 5 star average, will drop considerably on the species page when compared to other shots. Just crazy someone goes through the effort off doing all that..

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39 minutes ago, Birding Boy said:

Anybody else notice that over the last week, a couple times all of the photos on eBirds best of the day have been rate bombed with some very low ratings? They will be really high up and then everything will gain one or two ratings and some with fewer ratings will change to four stars and the others, while they will still retain the 5 star average, will drop considerably on the species page when compared to other shots. Just crazy someone goes through the effort off doing all that..

Yeah, I've seen that. It's really annoying because they're all great photos.

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14 hours ago, Birding Boy said:

Anybody else notice that over the last week, a couple times all of the photos on eBirds best of the day have been rate bombed with some very low ratings? They will be really high up and then everything will gain one or two ratings and some with fewer ratings will change to four stars and the others, while they will still retain the 5 star average, will drop considerably on the species page when compared to other shots. Just crazy someone goes through the effort off doing all that..

I've definitely noticed that! I think ebird needs a filter so that once a photo gets thirty-forty 5 star ratings, and than someone rates the photo as a one star, ebird will ignore the outlier. 

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57 minutes ago, Aidan B said:

 I think ebird needs a filter so that once a photo gets thirty-forty 5 star ratings, and than someone rates the photo as a one star, ebird will ignore the outlier. 

YES. I was thinking that too, if I can find an email address I might suggest that, I think it would really improve the system.

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I think there's a fundamental difference of opinion between people who rate things as they see them vs rate them in an attempt to bring the rating the number they think is the correct rating, if you see what I mean. 

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1 minute ago, BirdNrd said:

Of course I'm not complaining that 44 people rated this photo, but is this not a 5? Any thoughts are appreciated.

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/333039231

it's a very good photo, but I think it could have been framed a little better, and the lighting is harsh in parts of the photo. it's a 4-5 star photo to me, a four that's very close to a five. 

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14 minutes ago, Aidan B said:

it's a very good photo, but I think it could have been framed a little better, and the lighting is harsh in parts of the photo. it's a 4-5 star photo to me, a four that's very close to a five. 

That makes sense. I had to edit it from this photo to get the other photo.

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15 minutes ago, Aidan B said:

it's a very good photo, but I think it could have been framed a little better, and the lighting is harsh in parts of the photo. it's a 4-5 star photo to me, a four that's very close to a five. 

Completely agree.

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Someone just kicked me two of my audios and one photo of the illustrated checklist for Palo Pinto County! The audios aren't too bad they really are a bit better than mine, but his Grasshopper Sparrow pics is not as good as mine! It really is annoying to me when people rate somebody's photos better than they really deserve just because they are somebody. His photos where at FIVE stars and they just were not that good, I saw them as two's and three's. Okay I'll shut up now, pay me no mind I just complaining...

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On 5/24/2021 at 1:40 PM, Kevin said:

Someone just kicked me two of my audios and one photo of the illustrated checklist for Palo Pinto County! The audios aren't too bad they really are a bit better than mine, but his Grasshopper Sparrow pics is not as good as mine! It really is annoying to me when people rate somebody's photos better than they really deserve just because they are somebody. His photos where at FIVE stars and they just were not that good, I saw them as two's and three's. Okay I'll shut up now, pay me no mind I just complaining...

Yeah, I have someone in my county who rates photos quite oddly. He rates them 5s if they’re his, likes them, or if their someone else’s whom he likes, regardless of quality. If I get a better photo that might replace his or someone else’s on the illustrated checklist...I might get a down rate. 

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27 minutes ago, Birding Boy said:

Yeah, I have someone in my county who rates photos quite oddly. He rates them 5s if they’re his, likes them, or if their someone else’s whom he likes, regardless of quality. If I get a better photo that might replace his or someone else’s on the illustrated checklist...I might get a down rate. 

How do you know who rates your photos?

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On 5/24/2021 at 9:28 AM, Birding Boy said:

Ok, I will try to send an email today at some point to the Macaulay Library contact email. This really isn't good if all the photos are being bombed at least twice a day...

I did send an email, which got forwarded. Hopefully I’ll hear back sooner rather than later.

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I guess I really am not concerned about the rating system for photos. Some people just give poor ratings for everything, some give high ratings for everything, and then there are the people in the middle.  We all love our own photos, but photography is a learned skill, and it's one I haven't mastered.  When I critique my own photos I look for correct exposure-are blacks to black, or whites to white ?- in  either case there's a loss of detail- Then I look to see if the image is  sharp, and crisp and in focus. Correct  Exposure settings will affect all other settings to some degree.  I can edit those to fix some of those, but editing won't fix all of them. So, I call those photos 'for the record'.  I have a lot of photos that are lacking in some, all of those, but it may have been, for an example, a bird, or butterfly I've never seen before, so I want a record of it.  It took me a long time to be honest with myself about the quality of my photos, to look at them with a detached, critical eye. There are some that I'm really proud of that are lacking in one or more of the things that make a good or even a great  photo, but I don't care because ultimately I took time out of my day, hauled a bunch of gear, tramped through the woods, or whatever, to find birds, animals and anything I come across, to do something I love- to take pictures. 

I think I have 2 photos in the  Macaulay Library, one is a really poor quality photo but it was a Summer Tanager and we don't get them in Minnesota, or at least not often, the other was the Carolina wren, and that was on ok photo but it took a lot of editing. Other than people rating the photos there, are those ratings important for the Library itself? Does it serve some sort of function for them?

 

 

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