Dan P Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Taken on 4-29-2021 in the morning at Bear Divide in Angeles National Forest (between Canyon Country and Lake View Terrace, CA). Ongoing migration count and banding station. I know everyone says you need to see the tail feathers to distinguish female/immature Rufous from an Allen's. So that's what I've got, but I don't know exactly what I'm looking for. My feeling is a Rufous, but I can't say why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Rufous. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Dan P said: I know everyone says you need to see the tail feathers to distinguish female/immature Rufous from an Allen's. So that's what I've got, but I don't know exactly what I'm looking for. The broadness of the outermost rectrices. Allen's have pin-like feathers, while on your bird they are fairly wide. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Avery said: The broadness of the outermost rectrices. Allen's have pin-like feathers, while on your bird they are fairly wide. Yes, and a more distinguishing feature on this bird is the emarginate (notched) second rectrix, indicating RUHU. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilpa Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, DLecy said: Yes, and a more distinguishing feature on this bird is the emarginate (notched) second rectrix, indicating RUHU. This? So you count/number tail feathers from the middle out, 1-5? Edited April 30, 2021 by neilpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just now, neilpa said: This? So you count/number tail feathers from the middle out, 1-5? Bingo. Tail feathers are counted from the innermost outward, R1-R5 on hummingbirds. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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