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Taken on 4-29-2021 in the morning at Bear Divide in Angeles National Forest (between Canyon Country and Lake View Terrace, CA).  Ongoing migration count and banding station.

I know everyone says you need to see the tail feathers to distinguish female/immature Rufous from an Allen's.  So that's what I've got, but I don't know exactly what I'm looking for.  My feeling is a Rufous, but I can't say why.

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4 hours ago, Dan P said:

 

I know everyone says you need to see the tail feathers to distinguish female/immature Rufous from an Allen's.  So that's what I've got, but I don't know exactly what I'm looking for.  

 

The broadness of the outermost rectrices. Allen's have pin-like feathers, while on your bird they are fairly wide.

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6 minutes ago, Avery said:

The broadness of the outermost rectrices. Allen's have pin-like feathers, while on your bird they are fairly wide.

Yes, and a more distinguishing feature on this bird is the emarginate (notched) second rectrix, indicating RUHU.

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2 hours ago, DLecy said:

Yes, and a more distinguishing feature on this bird is the emarginate (notched) second rectrix, indicating RUHU.

This? So you count/number tail feathers from the middle out, 1-5?

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