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The Rufous-sided Towhee was split into the Eastern Towhee (your expected species) and the Spotted Towhee (the western species).  Neither have white over the eye and, as far as I know, they don't gather in flocks on lawns.

I have a few questions:

Is that white marking over the eyes on all birds?

How many of these birds are there?

What is their feeding behavior (hopping and stopping, flying down from trees to the ground and back up, constant pecking on the ground, scratching in the leaves)?

What is their posture (upright or more horizontal)?

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.. maybe 10  at a time..    pecking  in the  ground .   where    . grass has  just been cut  I only noticed the white line on 1 ..  but  yesterday saw the big white patch  under the  tail..  which made me think of towhees.. I am a long time bird watcher  I would  say they are upright .. they come in late afternoon in a bunch..  they really look like long skinny  robins..  what I assume are females have some white  among  lighter   brown  back  feathers   any thrasher  with  orange breast?

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Okay, thanks.  I can't think of anything else they can be other than just long, skinny robins with possibly a leucistic individual in there.  American Robins have white undertail coverts, broken white eyerings, and orange breasts and they can be brownish above and, like all birds, can stretch themselves out and flatten their feathers to look long and skinny.  The only thing that does not seem right for robin is pecking at the ground, but you didn't say whether they were doing that constantly or not.

My other options were:

European Starlings (juveniles)

Red-winged Blackbirds (females or juveniles)

Eastern Bluebirds (females of juveniles)

All of these gather in numbers on lawns, but they all don't quite fit your description.

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 I  guess they are long  skinny  robins..     and  almost  hop..   thanks...     emaciated  robins ….  I am   in my 80s   and  can identify  many  birds  but this bunch  are odd  looking   I know the  female  red wings  come  first..  and can identify them 

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