Bird-Boys Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Seen on Dec. 15th, 2020. This bird was seen a few weeks after a FIELD SPARROW was seen in the same spot as this bird. We all thought that the FESP had died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmWarbler Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I think so 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birding Boy Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) Sure looks like it, though more pics would help confirm. Edit: Sniped by @PalmWarbler! Edited June 8, 2021 by Birding Boy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birding Boy Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Also, was the bird you were referring to that was seen earlier the one with the massive tumor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdNrd Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, Birding Boy said: Also, was the bird you were referring to that was seen earlier the one with the massive tumor? Yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birding Boy Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, BirdNrd said: Yes. Thanks. Seems like if this was the same bird, that should be visible, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird-Boys Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share Posted June 8, 2021 Unfortunately, this is the only pic I have, is it IDable? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdNrd Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, Birding Boy said: Thanks. Seems like if this was the same bird, that should be visible, right? Yeah, probably. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird-Boys Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, Birding Boy said: Thanks. Seems like if this was the same bird, that should be visible, right? The tumor "popped" right before it "died". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birding Boy Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Yeah It’s certainly a Field Sparrow. Not sure if it’s the same one though... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird-Boys Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share Posted June 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Birding Boy said: Yeah It’s certainly a Field Sparrow. YIPPEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birding Boy Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bird-Boys said: YIPPEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lifer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird-Boys Posted June 8, 2021 Author Share Posted June 8, 2021 No, I saw the prior one, but it is only the second one I've seen and its cool that I found a second (or refound the first) county record! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I'm only on my phone and I'll check when I get home, but it looks a little suspect to me. The tail looks suspiciously short for spizella and I can't rule out goldfinch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birding Boy Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, Hasan said: I'm only on my phone and I'll check when I get home, but it looks a little suspect to me. The tail looks suspiciously short for spizella and I can't rule out goldfinch. I think the tail is angling towards the camera, making it appear shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I'm sorry but @Hasan is right it is a Goldfinch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Leukering Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Birding Boy said: Yeah It’s certainly a Field Sparrow. Why isn't it an immature WCSP that is delayed in its prealternate molt? Yes, that would be a huge delay, but FISP is really rare and definitive evidence is required for such. While it looks like a sparrow, certainly, it's a bad picture with the subject at an odd angle and with, it seems, different parts of its body at different angles. Edited June 8, 2021 by Tony Leukering clarification 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasan Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Tony Leukering said: While it looks like a sparrow, certainly Why? On my laptop now- this is definitely a female Goldfinch. The bill is thick and conical- wrong for any sparrow- and the bird is yellowish and lacking the correct facial patterns. Finally, the short tail is much too short for spizella- even being generous with how much the angle conceals length the bird is mostly viewed from the side and Field Sparrows have a very long tailed look to them Edited June 8, 2021 by Hasan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birding Boy Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tony Leukering said: Why isn't it an immature WCSP that is delayed in its prealternate molt? Yes, that would be a huge delay, but FISP is really rare and definitive evidence is required for such. While it looks like a sparrow, certainly, it's a bad picture with the subject at an odd angle and with, it seems, different parts of its body at different angles. Yeah, I definitely shouldn’t have leapt to conclusions with only one photo available. Sorry about that @Bird-BoysIt seems to have a FISP like face pattern, but as you said WCSP is tough to eliminate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Leukering Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Just now, Hasan said: The bill is thick and conical- wrong for any sparrow The true shape is, for me, impossible to be sure of, as the head is at an angle to the plane of the photo. We cannot know how much it is turned, with the more it is turned toward us further disguising the length. 2 minutes ago, Hasan said: the bird is yellowish I'm not convinced. While the lit portion of the underparts appears yellow, it is not all that much yellower than the lit portions of the twigs 4 minutes ago, Hasan said: the short tail The tail is held at an angle to the body such that it is the closest portion of the bird to the camera. That angle foreshortens the true length. However, we are in agreement that this photo does not make a definitive case for an ID of FISP. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalarope713 Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Hasan said: Why? On my laptop now- this is definitely a female Goldfinch. The bill is thick and conical- wrong for any sparrow- and the bird is yellowish and lacking the correct facial patterns. Finally, the short tail is much too short for spizella- even being generous with how much the angle conceals length the bird is mostly viewed from the side and Field Sparrows have a very long tailed look to them Agreed, American Goldfinch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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