simonthetanner Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Hi all, here's a fresh accipiter challenge! I found this fellow just this morning in southeast Oregon up in the Siskiyou mountains. I heard a Goshawk call earlier in the morning, and then about an hour later this accipiter flew over. Initial Impressions: Big bird, very fast gliding, and very dark. The flared undertail coverts should rule out Sharpie, so I believe it's either the Goshawk I heard or a Cooper's that flew in. In favor of Goshawk: Very heavy appearance, heavy speckling below, distinct supercilium, big thick tail, and broad wing with narrower tip. In favor of Coopers: Still fairly pale beneath in some lighting, no pale bar on greater coverts, and the fact that it didn't strike me as being too big for a female coopers. Thanks much for any help! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed hogg Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 I believe a Cooper's Hawk, no eyebrow, evenly banded tail, white under tail coverts. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbirds Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ed hogg said: I believe a Cooper's Hawk, no eyebrow, evenly banded tail, white under tail coverts. Agreed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peromyscus Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 I also think that it's a Cooper's Hawk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonthetanner Posted June 17, 2021 Author Share Posted June 17, 2021 Awesome, Thank you! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Leukering Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 hours ago, simonthetanner said: In favor of Goshawk: Goshawks typically have heavily streaked under-tail coverts in juv plumage; neither Sharpie nor Coop do. Additionally -- 3 hours ago, simonthetanner said: no pale bar on greater coverts I vote for Sharpie, given the relatively large eye on the small head, the "dirty" sides/flanks creating no contrast with wing, and -- visible in the first pic -- the terminus on the outermost rectrix being outside of the feather shaft. Finally, overall NOGO shape is much more like that of Sharpie than of Coop. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 14 hours ago, Tony Leukering said: Goshawks typically have heavily streaked under-tail coverts in juv plumage; neither Sharpie nor Coop do. Additionally -- I vote for Sharpie, given the relatively large eye on the small head, the "dirty" sides/flanks creating no contrast with wing, and -- visible in the first pic -- the terminus on the outermost rectrix being outside of the feather shaft. Finally, overall NOGO shape is much more like that of Sharpie than of Coop. Agreed. I’m with sharpie for this, but I very well could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peromyscus Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 6 hours ago, IKLland said: Agreed. I’m with sharpie for this, but I very well could be wrong. I have changed my mind and am now in the sharpie camp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKbird Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 23 hours ago, simonthetanner said: Awesome, Thank you! Quoting OP so they check back. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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