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Hi everyone,

Saw this bird in the Baltimore area, Rockfield Park in Bel Air at about 11am June 27, 2021.  Not a great image as the bird was far and facing away from me.  Looks blue/grayish but lighting was not optimal as well.

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2 hours ago, The Bird Nuts said:

Tough one.  My best guess is a White-breasted Nuthatch (dark cap, longish primary projection, gray back, thin white wingbar, pale edging on flight feathers, tail shape and length) with some missing or displaced feathers on its face.

 

11 minutes ago, Connor Cochrane said:

I agree with White-breasted nuthatch here. Coloration, facial pattern and bill shape seem spot on. 

I don't know what it is, but I don't think it's a WB Nuthatch. The bill doesn't look long enough and isn't turned up. Also, the wings are as long as the tail, which a WB Nuthatch wouldn't have. The photo is so washed out it's hard to tell for sure what the colors or color patterns may be. 

Just my 2 cents worth.

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1 hour ago, Pro2typer said:

Got it.  Initiating the noob.

For what it's worth I don't think this is what he was doing. Cosplay as in dressing up as something else, the way people dress up as characters when they go to see a movie -- if you know the word the intent is clear but you have to know the word...

Re the bird I haven't got a clue. My initial guess was a young blue jay but that's obviously wrong, not with that tail.

 

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6 hours ago, PaulK said:

For what it's worth I don't think this is what he was doing. Cosplay as in dressing up as something else, the way people dress up as characters when they go to see a movie -- if you know the word the intent is clear but you have to know the word...

Re the bird I haven't got a clue. My initial guess was a young blue jay but that's obviously wrong, not with that tail.

 

No worries at all and thanks for trying to clarify.  I looked it up after…. I was just saying that I had responded to the his post saying it wasn’t listed on eBird as one of the common birds, without thinking if it was actually a real bird.  Kind of like looking for Muffler Bearings…

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6 hours ago, Bird Brain said:

 

I don't know what it is, but I don't think it's a WB Nuthatch. The bill doesn't look long enough and isn't turned up. Also, the wings are as long as the tail, which a WB Nuthatch wouldn't have. The photo is so washed out it's hard to tell for sure what the colors or color patterns may be. 

Just my 2 cents worth.

@Bird Brain thanks.  It was unfortunate I couldn’t get a better shot at it.

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11 hours ago, Bird Brain said:

wings are as long as the tail, which a WB Nuthatch wouldn't have

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/45769831

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/191938351

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/317026691

 

All nuthatches are long-winged; note also the extensive fringing on wing feathers

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23 minutes ago, Tony Leukering said:

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/45769831

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/191938351

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/317026691

 

All nuthatches are long-winged; note also the extensive fringing on wing feathers

Thanks, Tony. I stand corrected. I suppose it could be a WB Nuthatch, seeing these photos, although I still don't get a Nuthatch feel for it. I could well be wrong, though.

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38 minutes ago, Quiscalus quiscula said:

Will you take a look at the extensive white on this bird?

Welcome.

A lot of that white is due to the photo being overexposed.  I looked at Downy but the wing and facial patterns are wrong, and the bill is too stubby for a Hairy.

I'm not convinced of WBNU myself, but I don't like the alternatives offered so far as much.

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1 hour ago, Quiscalus quiscula said:

Definitely not nuthatch! Will you take a look at the extensive white on this bird? That is our clue, as well as the stoutish bill. Guessing Downy or Hairy Woodpecker. Female or immature.

Wings are WAY too long for any black-and-white woodpecker!

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1 minute ago, kansabirdguy said:

This looks like an immature robin to me.

That was my first thought, but the black stripe coming from its bill is in the wrong place and is the wrong shape.  Also the bill appears too straight on top and the wingbar is a continuous line.

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2 hours ago, Quiscalus quiscula said:

Definitely not nuthatch! Will you take a look at the extensive white on this bird? That is our clue, as well as the stoutish bill. Guessing Downy or Hairy Woodpecker. Female or immature.

No white spotting on flight feathers, scapulars, or wing coverts.

Juvenile DOWO with parent:

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/350996601

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With the beak and feathers equally washed out I think the bird may be darkish. Its feathers look unpatterned though, to the extent we can tell, and look at the head shape/eye/beak: I think it's a juvenile Starling.

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