Dan P Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) Taken on 7-10-2021 at the Los Angeles River in Atwater Village, CA. Half the time I get these wrong. My first impression on the first photo was Sharpie, but after closer inspection I'm pretty sure its Cooper's. Edited July 11, 2021 by Dan P add photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, Dan P said: Taken on 7-10-2021 at the Los Angeles River in Atwater Village, CA. Half the time I get these wrong. My first impression on the first photo was Sharpie, but after closer inspection I'm pretty sure its Cooper's. Photo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmWarbler Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) Seems like your photo didn't make it. Edit: sniped Edited July 11, 2021 by PalmWarbler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan P Posted July 11, 2021 Author Share Posted July 11, 2021 You're too fast. I just added them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmWarbler Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Kinda looks like a Sharpie to me. I'm probably wrong though 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peromyscus Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 I am leaning Sharpie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Leukering Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 SSHA - messy streaks below that are obviously reddish, "dirty" wing pits 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan P Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 I'm glad its a SSHA because they are few and far between. But I'm not please with my ability (or inability) to distinguish them from COHA. I could do as well by flipping a coin. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan P Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 When I uploaded my checklist to eBird, it flagged the SSHA as rare for the date and location. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dan P said: When I uploaded my checklist to eBird, it flagged the SSHA as rare for the date and location. As long as you share the photos and add comments of the appearance of the bird, it should get confirmed. As also living in SoCal, I can tell you they only live here in the winter. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbirds Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I almost thought this 7 hours ago, IKLland said: I can tell you they only live here in the winter. said this! 7 hours ago, IKLland said: I can tell you I only live here in the winter. I was about to ask @IKLland where he/she lived in the summer! ? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Seanbirds said: he/she li He. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbirds Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 hours ago, IKLland said: He. Right. I'll remember. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasBird Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 17 hours ago, Tony Leukering said: SSHA - messy streaks below that are obviously reddish, "dirty" wing pits Thanks for this tip --I will be sure to look for this. On an unrelated note --the red eye on this bird is phenomenal, isn't it? My thanks to Dan P. for sharing the pics. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan P Posted July 18, 2021 Author Share Posted July 18, 2021 The eBird reviewer said this is a Cooper's Hawk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/18/2021 at 1:38 PM, Dan P said: The eBird reviewer said this is a Cooper's Hawk. @Tony Leukering 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan P Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 The reviewer said that on eBird there are no observations of a Sharp-shinned Hawk in Los Angeles County in July. That is the only reason given for identifying it as a Cooper's Hawk. I think I will change my observation to Cooper's/Sharp-shinned. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexHenry Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/18/2021 at 11:38 AM, Dan P said: The eBird reviewer said this is a Cooper's Hawk. Cooper’s/Sharp-shinned is a good option if you’re unsure. That notched tail, among other things, suggest Sharpie to me, but in many areas of California, especially low elevation urban Southern California, Cooper’s is the much more expected species so you need to be really sure to call it a Sharpie. But you shouldn’t call it a Coop just because they’re more common, either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan P Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 The problem is when I try to change it to Cooper's/Sharp-shinned it shows that as RARE. So the reviewer will get it again and tell me its a Cooper's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexHenry Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Just now, Dan P said: The problem is when I try to change it to Cooper's/Sharp-shinned it shows that as RARE. So the reviewer will get it again and tell me its a Cooper's. You’re never wrong if you use a “slash”! I get it that you don’t want to cause any problems, but you shouldn’t let the filter discourage you from using the occasional “slash” or “sp” option, and the “slash” seems fitting in this case. But it’s your call what you do 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan P Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 For now I've just changed it to Hawk sp. (without photos) until I figure out what to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 @AlexHenry @The Bird Nuts Doesn't the extent of the head projection, especially in the second photo, suggest Cooper's? Also the residual longitudinal streaking looks fairly thin (I'm thinking this is a second year bird with the dark brown streaking changing to orange barring?). I struggle with eye location but it looks quite forward to me. FWIW. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbirds Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, RobinHood said: FWIW Sorry, can you remind me what that stands for? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 For What It's Worth (as I don't have the experience, which is probably the most important factor for this bird, of the experts here). I'm not sure if "second year" is correct. I meant that the bird is perhaps about a year old but I'm sure I will be corrected if this is not the case. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmWarbler Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 hybrid? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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