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Taken on 7-10-2021 at the Los Angeles River in Atwater Village, CA.

Half the time I get these wrong.  My first impression on the first photo was Sharpie, but after closer inspection I'm pretty sure its Cooper's.

 

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Just now, Dan P said:

Taken on 7-10-2021 at the Los Angeles River in Atwater Village, CA.

Half the time I get these wrong.  My first impression on the first photo was Sharpie, but after closer inspection I'm pretty sure its Cooper's.

 

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4 minutes ago, Dan P said:

When I uploaded my checklist to eBird, it flagged the SSHA as rare for the date and location.

As long as you share the photos and add comments of the appearance of the bird, it should get confirmed. As also living in SoCal, I can tell you they only live here in the winter. 

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17 hours ago, Tony Leukering said:

SSHA - messy streaks below that are obviously reddish, "dirty" wing pits

Thanks for this tip --I will be sure to look for this. 

On an unrelated note --the red eye on this bird is phenomenal, isn't it? My thanks to Dan P. for sharing the pics. 

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The reviewer said that on eBird there are no observations of a Sharp-shinned Hawk in Los Angeles County in July.  That is the only reason given for identifying it as a Cooper's Hawk.  I think I will change my observation to Cooper's/Sharp-shinned.

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On 7/18/2021 at 11:38 AM, Dan P said:

The eBird reviewer said this is a Cooper's Hawk.

 

Cooper’s/Sharp-shinned is a good option if you’re unsure. That notched tail, among other things, suggest Sharpie to me, but in many areas of California, especially low elevation urban Southern California, Cooper’s is the much more expected species so you need to be really sure to call it a Sharpie. But you shouldn’t call it a Coop just because they’re more common, either 

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Just now, Dan P said:

The problem is when I try to change it to Cooper's/Sharp-shinned it shows that as RARE.  So the reviewer will get it again and tell me its a Cooper's.

You’re never wrong if you use a “slash”! I get it that you don’t want to cause any problems, but you shouldn’t let the filter discourage you from using the occasional “slash” or “sp” option, and the “slash” seems fitting in this case. But it’s your call what you do

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For What It's Worth (as I don't have the experience, which is probably the most important factor for this bird, of the experts here).

I'm not sure if "second year" is correct. I meant that the bird is perhaps about a year old but I'm sure I will be corrected if this is not the case.

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