Birds are cool Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, IKLland said: Thoughts welcome! Raw file(screenshot, so not good quality) Edited image using adobe photoshop express. I sharpened the bird, removed noise, did a couple contrast/brightness adjustments. I did the contrast/brightness adjustments in layers to make it look better(brighter background but not too bright bird). I also did the sharpening and Noise removal in layers. Embedded from eBird. That's great! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds are cool Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Did I crop it to much? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, Birds are cool said: Did I crop it to much? I really like the crop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds are cool Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Thanks. I wasn't sure if I cropped it to much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeylenz Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 10 minutes ago, Birds are cool said: Did I crop it to much? It looks good but, in my opinion, I like the uncropped better. but they're both good! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 9 hours ago, Birds are cool said: Did I crop it to much? I guess that depends on what you plan to do with the finished image. If I was posting it to a checklist, I'd use the cropped one. If I was using it as a computer wallpaper, or printing it 11x17 or larger, I'd go with the uncropped. Edited January 12 by Charlie Spencer 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestranger Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 11 hours ago, Birds are cool said: Did I crop it to much I agree with @Monkeylenz and @Charlie Spencer. I like the crop for showcasing the bird, but I like the aesthetics of the uncropped image. Having said that, I suspect that a very slight trimming off the bottom and left side would be my preference for computer wallpaper or printing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, lonestranger said: I agree with @Monkeylenz and @Charlie Spencer. I like the crop for showcasing the bird, but I like the aesthetics of the uncropped image. Having said that, I suspect that a very slight trimming off the bottom and left side would be my preference for computer wallpaper or printing. Yeah, I'd lose that bit of twig at the bottom. Instead of the left, I'd lose where the branch splits into three or four twigs on the right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 Thoughts appreciated! Screenshot of raw file. Poor sharpness since it’s a screenshot. Edited image, embedded from ebird. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pictaker Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 very nice, a tad too dark for me but its still a nice edit. One thing I always try to do,especially with birds, is make sure the eye can be seen,I realize thats not always possible but showing an eye,with the iris,makes the bird pop, even a bit of catch light on the eye can help, you can just select the eye in lightroom or whatever your program is and lighten it a touch and see how it looks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds are cool Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 14 hours ago, IKLland said: Thoughts appreciated! Screenshot of raw file. Poor sharpness since it’s a screenshot. Edited image, embedded from ebird. Poor Sharpness???? Great photo, though I agree with it being a tad dark. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 3 hours ago, Birds are cool said: Poor Sharpness???? Great photo, though I agree with it being a tad dark. I mean the first image(the original photo) is a screenshot of it, not the actual photo. Since it’s a screenshot, the quality of that photo(the original) is poor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) First post on this thread for me so be gentle (I'm looking forward to checking out all of the posts when I have time, maybe now as it just started snowing). For me cropping is almost always the most important step in editing, especially with bird photos when there are often so many distracting elements, and can sometimes be a delicate balance. For waterfowl I often have lots of foreground and decent space in front of the bird. You would think this particular photo would be straightforward (no distractions) but the crop I posted on eBird, second image, got minimal response (eventually one rating plus mine). I thought at the time the wake was worth emphasizing but I think it perhaps spoiled the balance of the photo. Ignore other editing aspects, I didn't spend much time on it, as this is just about cropping. Comments appreciated and an improved crop if reasonably different from those posted. I've included the original uncropped image, the one I posted on eBird and the crop I would normally use. Edited January 20 by RobinHood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds are cool Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 53 minutes ago, RobinHood said: First post on this thread for me so be gentle (I'm looking forward to checking out all of the posts when I have time, maybe now as it just started snowing). For me cropping is almost always the most important step in editing, especially with bird photos when there are often so many distracting elements, and can sometimes be a delicate balance. For waterfowl I often have lots of foreground and decent space in front of the bird. You would think this particular photo would be straightforward (no distractions) but the crop I posted on eBird, second image, got minimal response (eventually one rating plus mine). I thought at the time the wake was worth emphasizing but I think it perhaps spoiled the balance of the photo. Ignore other editing aspects, I didn't spend much time on it, as this is just about cropping. Comments appreciated and an improved crop if reasonably different from those posted. I've included the original uncropped image, the one I posted on eBird and the crop I would normally use. I would like the last photo if you trimmed the bottom a bit! Great photo! I will rate it if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 13 minutes ago, Birds are cool said: I would like the last photo if you trimmed the bottom a bit! Great photo! I will rate it if you want. Good call. I added the wrong photo for the eBird post (link below) which I think is what you prefer. I wasn't looking for ratings, one more is fine, just comments on the delicate art of cropping. https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/524727331 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, RobinHood said: First post on this thread for me so be gentle (I'm looking forward to checking out all of the posts when I have time, maybe now as it just started snowing). For me cropping is almost always the most important step in editing, especially with bird photos when there are often so many distracting elements, and can sometimes be a delicate balance. For waterfowl I often have lots of foreground and decent space in front of the bird. You would think this particular photo would be straightforward (no distractions) but the crop I posted on eBird, second image, got minimal response (eventually one rating plus mine). I thought at the time the wake was worth emphasizing but I think it perhaps spoiled the balance of the photo. Ignore other editing aspects, I didn't spend much time on it, as this is just about cropping. Comments appreciated and an improved crop if reasonably different from those posted. I've included the original uncropped image, the one I posted on eBird and the crop I would normally use. Okay, I’m confused. My favorite crop is the last photo. Why wouldn’t you put that one on eBird? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds are cool Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, IKLland said: Okay, I’m confused. My favorite crop is the last photo. Why wouldn’t you put that one on eBird? This. Sorry if I confused you earlier @RobinHood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I like the second photo. I like the ripples. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestranger Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, RobinHood said: https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/524727331 This is my favourite of the four options. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Spinning this off from I temporarily uploaded the original to eBird, since I don't know another way to give others access to it. https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/526274331 and the duck is dead center. I use paint.net because G.I.M.P. and others intimidate me, and because it lets me set the crop size to a fixed set of dimensions. In the original post, it was suggested I try 'De-haze', but I don't have that option. I do have something called 'Auto Level'. I ran that and here's a screenshot of the results. If @IKLlandor anyone else is bored or stuck indoors, you're welcome to take a whack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 21 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said: Spinning this off from I temporarily uploaded the original to eBird, since I don't know another way to give others access to it. https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/526274331 and the duck is dead center. I use paint.net because G.I.M.P. and others intimidate me, and because it lets me set the crop size to a fixed set of dimensions. In the original post, it was suggested I try 'De-haze', but I don't have that option. I do have something called 'Auto Level'. I ran that and here's a screenshot of the results. If @IKLlandor anyone else is bored or stuck indoors, you're welcome to take a whack. That looks pretty good, actually! Here’s my really quick attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 Actually, I might like this one better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I think your second one is ... sharper? Smoother? The first one has more ... contrast? I acknowledge the original is a pig, and no amount of lipstick will change that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 44 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said: I think your second one is ... sharper? Smoother? The first one has more ... contrast? I acknowledge the original is a pig, and no amount of lipstick will change that. The only difference between my two edits is that I did them in different programs, the first one was done on the photos app on my phone that loads when you click “edit”. The second one was done in my real editing app, Photoshop express. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds are cool Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) What do you think of my editing and cropping? https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/526694541 Cropped original edited Edited January 22 by Birds are cool 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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