kozmik Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Which Goldeneye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed hogg Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) Welcome to Whatbird @kozmik. Barrow's Goldeneye I think. This is the photo I am going off: Macaulay Library ML356887761 Edited July 26, 2021 by Ed hogg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozmik Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 Thanks, I am leaning Barrow's but want to confirm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan B Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Looks like a Common Goldeneye to me. Note the difference in head shape between the two. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexHenry Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Where is Salmon? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozmik Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 Salmon Idaho, sorry forgot the initials for Idaho are the same as the verb of request. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKbird Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) The head shape looks OK for either to me. I'll stick an @Tony Leukering on here. ? Edited July 27, 2021 by TKbird 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed hogg Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 12 hours ago, Aidan B said: Looks like a Common Goldeneye to me. Note the difference in head shape between the two. Now that you mention it it does look pretty good for a common . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Looks good for common, especially with that mostly black bill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKbird Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/64378911 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/179541381 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/351079041 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/242251741 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/237980541 Confidently distinguishing between BAGO and the bird posted (if it is a COGO) is beyond my level of experience. To quote Sibley, "Identifying female goldeneyes is extremely challenging. Differences are subtle, subjective, and inconsistent, but experienced observers still build up a “template” of expected impressions that allow them to identify the species with confidence. Describing these differences, and identifying individual birds from photos, can be very challenging because the process of identification relies so heavily on gestalt." Edited July 27, 2021 by TKbird 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, TKbird said: https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/64378911 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/179541381 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/351079041 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/242251741 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/237980541 Confidently distinguishing between BAGO and the bird posted (if it is a COGO) is beyond my level of experience. To quote Sibley, "Identifying female goldeneyes is extremely challenging. Differences are subtle, subjective, and inconsistent, but experienced observers still build up a “template” of expected impressions that allow them to identify the species with confidence. Describing these differences, and identifying individual birds from photos, can be very challenging because the process of identification relies so heavily on gestalt." Agree. Also I think I can see a straight-edged bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 you mean we aren't identifying some salmon fish you caught? 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Brain Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kevin said: you mean we aren't identifying some salmon fish you caught? That's what I thought when I saw the thread title!! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbirds Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, Bird Brain said: That's what I thought when I saw the thread title!! Me too! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, Seanbirds said: Me too! ? Me three! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Quiscalus quiscula said: Me three! I thought I was going to have to explain that this was whatbird forum instead of whatfish forum! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peromyscus Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 hours ago, Kevin said: you mean we aren't identifying some salmon fish you caught? That was my first thought as well! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 9 hours ago, Bird Brain said: That's what I thought when I saw the thread title!! This! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aveschapinas Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 8 hours ago, Quiscalus quiscula said: I thought I was going to have to explain that this was whatbird forum instead of whatfish forum! And I thought I was going to have to be a mean moderator! Even seeing the ID was a bird I was still confused 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melierax Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I like Common or hybrid. We had a Barrow's this summer just south in Stanley, but this bird has a significantly larger bill with minimal orange and head shape that fits better for Common. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozmik Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 Thanks everyone. Melierax, thanks for the local perspective. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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