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05 Oct 2021 Baldwin co. AL;  bayside public park, heavily wooded, cypress swamp, pine palmetto, oak/magnolia

1.  Flying like a swallow.  Northern Rough-winged vs. just a EUST

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2.  maybe same bird as #1

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3.  Thought this was a White-breasted Nuthatch but he looks odd

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4.  Blackburnian vs. other warbler sp.

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5. Best guess is Eastern Wood Peewee, but that tail is short.

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12 minutes ago, Seanbirds said:

@Birding Boy what do you think? Still looks like Blackburnian to me...

Yeah I’m still with team Blackburnian. That pale yellow wash on the throat/breast isn’t something I’d expect to see on a YRWA. Face seems more BLBW to me...hard to explain why though.

Any more shots?

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13 hours ago, Seanbirds said:

@Birding Boy what do you think? Still looks like Blackburnian to me...

 

13 hours ago, Birding Boy said:

Yeah I’m still with team Blackburnian. That pale yellow wash on the throat/breast isn’t something I’d expect to see on a YRWA. Face seems more BLBW to me...hard to explain why though.

Any more shots?

 

13 hours ago, blackburnian said:

4 is certainly Blackburnian. 

 

3 hours ago, Charlie Spencer said:

This.  I don't know a Blackburnian from a blacksmith but I've never seen even a photo of a Butterbutt with yellow on the throat and breast.

I’m also in for blackburnian. 

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4 hours ago, Quiscalus quiscula said:

Not to be contrary and no offense to Birding Boy, but I can't see this as anything but a Yellow-rumped. If I have permission to edit @floraphile's photo I'll show you what I mean. The tail is too long for Blackburnian besides.

Sorry. It’s a nonbreeding blackburnian. How can you explain a yellow rumped in Alabama with a yellow throat? Only myrtle lives there. They have no yellow on the throat. 
 

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/183003871

an Audubons would be very rare. But they have a yellow throat, but lack a yellow chest, that @floraphiles bird has. 
Drab Audubon’s:https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/119327101

a bright Audubon looks like this: still no yellow chest. 

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/58640191

blackburnian of this age: yellow chest, different facial pattern. 

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/360395911

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/306341031

 

 

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5 hours ago, Quiscalus quiscula said:

Not to be contrary and no offense to Birding Boy, but I can't see this as anything but a Yellow-rumped. If I have permission to edit @floraphile's photo I'll show you what I mean. The tail is too long for Blackburnian besides.

No offense taken of course haha, and none intended, but maybe you’re thinking of a breeding plumaged male Blackburnian? Non-breeding males and females, as well as immatures, can be quite drab like this bird, such as several examples @IKLland gave in his post.

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On 11/30/2021 at 5:06 PM, IKLland said:

Sorry. It’s a nonbreeding blackburnian. How can you explain a yellow rumped in Alabama with a yellow throat? Only myrtle lives there. They have no yellow on the throat. 
 

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/183003871

an Audubons would be very rare. But they have a yellow throat, but lack a yellow chest, that @floraphiles bird has. 
Drab Audubon’s:https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/119327101

a bright Audubon looks like this: still no yellow chest. 

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/58640191

blackburnian of this age: yellow chest, different facial pattern. 

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/360395911

https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/306341031

 

 

Yes, I know only Myrtle lives there. I'm an eastern birder after all. But, the yellow is only on the breast, not the throat. I think that this is probably caused by lighting and is just reflecting off the leaves. And I don't know how you are explaining the facial pattern, which looks really weird compared the blackburnians that I've seen.

On 11/30/2021 at 5:26 PM, Birding Boy said:

No offense taken of course haha, and none intended, but maybe you’re thinking of a breeding plumaged male Blackburnian? Non-breeding males and females, as well as immatures, can be quite drab like this bird, such as several examples @IKLland gave in his post.

I'm aware that not all Blackburnians have the flaming orange throat that makes them such a fan favorite. The ones I've seen have been quite drab as well. 

I'd like more people to give their opinions. The GISS is just screaming YRWA in my ear, but maybe that's just something strange going on in my brain. I'm going to stop posting in this thread because I really don't want to sound contrary or seem like I'm arguing with people.

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12 minutes ago, Quiscalus quiscula said:

Yes, I know only Myrtle lives there. I'm an eastern birder after all. But, the yellow is only on the breast, not the throat. I think that this is probably caused by lighting and is just reflecting off the leaves. And I don't know how you are explaining the facial pattern, which looks really weird compared the blackburnians that I've seen.

I'm aware that not all Blackburnians have the flaming orange throat that makes them such a fan favorite. The ones I've seen have been quite drab as well. 

I'd like more people to give their opinions. The GISS is just screaming YRWA in my ear, but maybe that's just something strange going on in my brain. I'm going to stop posting in this thread because I really don't want to sound contrary or seem like I'm arguing with people.

The yellow IS on the throat. Sorry @floraphile, but I just darkened your image. 
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the facial pattern is explained by the plumage, a fall bird. Also, the angle is weird. I can’t see this as anything other than blackburnian , so I’m out. 

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On 11/28/2021 at 4:59 PM, Quiscalus quiscula said:

I think the face gives it away. It does not have a strong facial pattern like a Blackburnian, and not even a bit of yellow on the face. Also it has a bit of an eyering and the head is a drab gray-brown like nonbreeding/immature/female/ Yellow-rumped.

I can’t see an eye ring from this angle.

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2 hours ago, IKLland said:

Yes, everyone’s opinion is respected. And @Quiscalus quiscula, I’m sorry you felt like I was arguing with you, I didn’t mean to. I was just trying to show the reasons I thought blackburnian more clearly for you. 

No, it's fine. Anyway, I'll try to keep polite. So the other things I'm seeing that make this a YRWA for me are the white eye arc, and I think what would be a longer tail than a Blackburnian.

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4 hours ago, Quiscalus quiscula said:

No, it's fine. Anyway, I'll try to keep polite. So the other things I'm seeing that make this a YRWA for me are the white eye arc, and I think what would be a longer tail than a Blackburnian.

This bird has white eye arcs

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