floraphile Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 02 Nov 2021 Baldwin co. AL; estuary/marsh; delta 1. Bird to left looks like a grebe sp. & appears to have a red eye; bird to right, cormorant (bill looked good for that) vs. loon (appears to be a paleness to the throat) but not holding bill like our usual Common Loon. 2. Blue-winged Teal vs. teal sp. vs. other; I don't see any creamy line at the tails. Edited November 2, 2021 by floraphile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 My first thought on the first photo was pie bill grebe and common loon, but wait for an expert 🙂 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Corey said: My first thought on the first photo was pie bill grebe and common loon, but wait for an expert 🙂 This. I don't think the ducks are identifiable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Why isn’t the bird to the left in the first pic another cormorant from head on? Seems quite big for a Pied-billed Grebe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 30 minutes ago, Avery said: Why isn’t the bird to the left in the first pic another cormorant from head on? Seems quite big for a Pied-billed Grebe I can't see this being anything but a grebe. As to it being 'another cormorant', the other bird is definitely a loon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan B Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said: I can't see this being anything but a grebe. As to it being 'another cormorant', the other bird is definitely a loon. I can see it as a cormorant pretty easily. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Aidan B said: I can see it as a cormorant pretty easily. To me, the head is in profile. If that's the case, the bill is too short for a corm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan B Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Charlie Spencer said: To me, the head is in profile. If that's the case, the bill is too short for a corm. I'm think the head is facing towards the side and back, so you're only seeing part of the bill. This bird's just far too large to be a grebe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peromyscus Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I think both of the birds in photo #1 are cormorants. The left-hand bird is too large for a grebe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulK Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Far from expert but I think they're both common loons, with the residual collar still visible on the bird on the left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Charlie Spencer said: I can't see this being anything but a grebe. As to it being 'another cormorant', the other bird is definitely a loon. Oop, misread d’inscription. Honestly I didn’t really look at the other bird very closely, but it does look like a Loon to me (cormorant would sit lower in the water) I don’t know for sure what the left bird is, I just can’t see it as a PBGR I see the left bird the same way @Aidan Bdoes Edited November 3, 2021 by Avery 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan B Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Right hand bird also seems like a loon to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bird Nuts Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I like cormorant and loon for #1 as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nivalis Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Top right bird is definitely loon. I can't really see cormorant for the left bird though, Seems to be sitting pretty high on the water and bill does not look right at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peromyscus Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I am in the loon camp now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 58 minutes ago, Peromyscus said: I am in the loon camp now Left, right, or both? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Pied-billed Grebe and loon for me based on first impression, I don't think apparent relative size can be relied on. I typically find Pied-billed within a few hundred yards/metres of shore so if this is further out....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 4 hours ago, RobinHood said: Pied-billed Grebe and loon for me based on first impression, I don't think apparent relative size can be relied on. I typically find Pied-billed within a few hundred yards/metres of shore so if this is further out....... Not far from a shore, just far from my shore at the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 13 hours ago, The Bird Nuts said: I like cormorant and loon for #1 as well. If a loon, the angled-rather-than-straight bill position (which is also consistent with cormorant) would suggest Red-throated, n'est-ce pas? I'm not going to count either of these birds on my list; the IDs are for my own edification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, floraphile said: Not far from a shore, just far from my shore at the time. @RobinHood-lol! I wasn't intending to be funny! Just trying to be descriptive. Edited November 3, 2021 by floraphile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 53 minutes ago, floraphile said: n'est-ce pas I think cormorants, loons, and even grebes n'est on the ground. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I wouldn't try to identify a bird based on where in the lake it was. That may be a good clue, but not a strong identification point. I have seen Pied-billed Grebes right next to the shore, and smack dab in the center of a lake. Same lake and same day too. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, floraphile said: I wasn't intending to be funny! Just trying to be descriptive. Haha - I thought you were saying you were a long way from home at the time. 25 minutes ago, Kevin said: I have seen Pied-billed Grebes right next to the shore, and smack dab in the center of a lake. Same lake and same day to. Agree with not using it as an ID feature, but maybe as an additional pointer. I honestly don't recall seeing a Pied-billed more than say 200yds offshore, other grebes for sure, but my experience is Great Lakes (ie. large water bodies) so other locations may vary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, RobinHood said: Haha - I thought you were saying you were a long way from home at the time. Agree with not using it as an ID feature, but maybe as an additional pointer. I honestly don't recall seeing a Pied-billed more than say 200yds offshore, other grebes for sure, but my experience is Great Lakes (ie. large water bodies) so other locations may vary. That's not a lake, those are freshwater oceans. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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