Swallow - cave or cliff?

[Brett H]

I know these photos are poor, but can you tell if they are of either a cave or cliff swallow (or something else)? These were taken on November 5 in Bonita Springs, FL.

Thanks!

[Ed hogg]

I'm not sure if this can be identified from these photos.

[Hasan]

Looks pretty good for Cave

[Brett H]

Thanks! I think it looks more like a cave, but they are rare for this location/time-of-year.

Anyone else?

[AlexHenry]

I think Cave as well

[Brett H]

Here’s another one I saw from the same general area the day before. It was with some barn swallows so that’s what I assumed it was, but I see now that it’s either a cave or a cliff given the pale/light orange ramp and square-ish tail.

[Aidan B]

36 minutes ago, Brett H said:

Here’s another one I saw from the same general area the day before. It was with some barn swallows so that’s what I assumed it was, but I see now that it’s either a cave or a cliff given the pale/light orange ramp and square-ish tail.

Looks good for Cave to me with no white on the forehead.