IKLland Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 Hi all, I was birding today and looked up and saw what I assumed to be a RTHA. I took a quick pic and moved on. Reviewing the image after seeing it again, I realized that it wasn’t. It might be a juvenile BWHA. Now, I think it could be a swainson’s. Please help. This is my only photo. thanks. seen today, Orange County, Ca. just tagging some CA birders. @DLecy @Connor Cochrane @AlexHenry @Aidan B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Cochrane Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 Unfortunately it’s just a juvenile Red-tailed. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted November 24 Author Share Posted November 24 Just now, Connor Cochrane said: Unfortunately it’s just a juvenile Red-tailed. Well, that’s upsetting. How did you rule out BWHA juvenile? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 BWHAs don't have dark patagial markings, among other things. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan B Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 9 minutes ago, IKLland said: Well, that’s upsetting. How did you rule out BWHA juvenile? Brown throat, black patagial patches, lots of thin streaking vs speckling, tail pattern, overall coloration is too dark, and GISS. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Friedman Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 9 minutes ago, IKLland said: Well, that’s upsetting. How did you rule out BWHA juvenile? In addition to the above, five emarginated primaries and bulging secondaries. If the funny-looking bellyband was throwing you off, I'll add that Red-tailed bellybands are extremely variable. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted November 24 Author Share Posted November 24 Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbirds Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 1 hour ago, IKLland said: Well, that’s upsetting. Don’t worry, I’ve had much MUCH worse/more embarrassing mis-identifications. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 9 hours ago, Connor Cochrane said: Unfortunately it’s just a juvenile Red-tailed. "JUST"??? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexHenry Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 16 hours ago, IKLland said: Well, that’s upsetting. How did you rule out BWHA juvenile? The real question is, why did you think it wasn’t a Red-tail? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Yeah, it's a weird looking red-tailed (at least to me from the east), but this looks nothing like the BWHAs I see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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