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Hi,

Can anybody help sort out what bird it is I snapped at my feeder yesterday?  I see lots of House Finches, so I initially assumed this was a female.  However, upon closer inspection, I don’t think that’s quite right, as the color seems to be more golden.  Is it perhaps a female Purple Finch?  Or a different species entirely?

 

-Steve

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10 minutes ago, Peromyscus said:

Where were the photos taken? It's definitely a House Finch.

 

10 minutes ago, IKLland said:

Female/immature male house finch. Remember general location and date. 

 

Yup, sorry.  I fully intended to mention that, and yet in my haste forgot.  I'm in northern NJ.

...So it *is* a House Finch, eh?  An immature, I suppose?  That could account for the different coloration from what I'm used to seeing on [adult] females.



 

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4 minutes ago, sbutk said:

 

 

Yup, sorry.  I fully intended to mention that, and yet in my haste forgot.  I'm in northern NJ.

...So it *is* a House Finch, eh?  An immature, I suppose?  That could account for the different coloration from what I'm used to seeing on [adult] females.



 

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I don’t think it’s identifiable to sex.  It’s either a female or immature male.  I don’t see anything unusual about the colors. 

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8 minutes ago, IKLland said:

I don’t think it’s identifiable to sex.  It’s either a female or immature male.  I don’t see anything unusual about the colors. 

 

Hmm, OK.  In general, I would tend to describe female HFs as gray.  Maybe it's my eyes, but in the first photo (next to the Titmouse), I wouldn't describe that bird as gray at all.  And I hadn't realized they have that rust on the rump, either.

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3 minutes ago, sbutk said:

 

Hmm, OK.  In general, I would tend to describe female HFs as gray.  Maybe it's my eyes, but in the first photo (next to the Titmouse), I wouldn't describe that bird as gray at all.  And I hadn't realized they have that rust on the rump, either.

It might be that it’s in the sun for it being brown. I always see them as grayish/brown. I’m not sure about the rump, I’ll see if I can find something on that.  

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4 minutes ago, sbutk said:

 

Hmm, OK.  In general, I would tend to describe female HFs as gray.  Maybe it's my eyes, but in the first photo (next to the Titmouse), I wouldn't describe that bird as gray at all.  And I hadn't realized they have that rust on the rump, either.

Here. https://macaulaylibrary.org/

this bird has some rust under the tail, of what’s visible. 

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1 minute ago, IKLland said:

It might be that it’s in the sun for it being brown. I always see them as grayish/brown. I’m not sure about the rump, I’ll see if I can find something on that.  

 

I've found that sunlight, as a rule, almost always plays its tricks.  Particularly when it comes to birds.  I'm inclined to say you're right.

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2 minutes ago, IKLland said:

What about the rust? Do you think that’s also sunlight? I’ve seen one with that before. 

 

Just did a quick Google Image search.  It's sortof visible here:
https://www.naturepl.com/stock-photo-carpodacus-mexicanus-nature-image00563457.html


P.S.  Thanks for the discussion.  I'm actually learning something new tonight.  👍

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