sbutk Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Hi, Can anybody help sort out what bird it is I snapped at my feeder yesterday? I see lots of House Finches, so I initially assumed this was a female. However, upon closer inspection, I don’t think that’s quite right, as the color seems to be more golden. Is it perhaps a female Purple Finch? Or a different species entirely? -Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peromyscus Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Where were the photos taken? It's definitely a House Finch. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) Female/immature male house finch. Remember general location and date. Edited December 17, 2021 by IKLland Sniped! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbutk Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Peromyscus said: Where were the photos taken? It's definitely a House Finch. 10 minutes ago, IKLland said: Female/immature male house finch. Remember general location and date. Yup, sorry. I fully intended to mention that, and yet in my haste forgot. I'm in northern NJ. ...So it *is* a House Finch, eh? An immature, I suppose? That could account for the different coloration from what I'm used to seeing on [adult] females. Edited December 17, 2021 by sbutk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, sbutk said: Yup, sorry. I fully intended to mention that, and yet in my haste forgot. I'm in northern NJ. ...So it *is* a House Finch, eh? An immature, I suppose? That could account for the different coloration from what I'm used to seeing on [adult] females. I don’t think it’s identifiable to sex. It’s either a female or immature male. I don’t see anything unusual about the colors. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbutk Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, IKLland said: I don’t think it’s identifiable to sex. It’s either a female or immature male. I don’t see anything unusual about the colors. Hmm, OK. In general, I would tend to describe female HFs as gray. Maybe it's my eyes, but in the first photo (next to the Titmouse), I wouldn't describe that bird as gray at all. And I hadn't realized they have that rust on the rump, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, sbutk said: Hmm, OK. In general, I would tend to describe female HFs as gray. Maybe it's my eyes, but in the first photo (next to the Titmouse), I wouldn't describe that bird as gray at all. And I hadn't realized they have that rust on the rump, either. It might be that it’s in the sun for it being brown. I always see them as grayish/brown. I’m not sure about the rump, I’ll see if I can find something on that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, sbutk said: Hmm, OK. In general, I would tend to describe female HFs as gray. Maybe it's my eyes, but in the first photo (next to the Titmouse), I wouldn't describe that bird as gray at all. And I hadn't realized they have that rust on the rump, either. Here. https://macaulaylibrary.org/ this bird has some rust under the tail, of what’s visible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbutk Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 minute ago, IKLland said: It might be that it’s in the sun for it being brown. I always see them as grayish/brown. I’m not sure about the rump, I’ll see if I can find something on that. I've found that sunlight, as a rule, almost always plays its tricks. Particularly when it comes to birds. I'm inclined to say you're right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 minute ago, sbutk said: I've found that sunlight, as a rule, almost always plays its tricks. Particularly when it comes to birds. I'm inclined to say you're right. What about the rust? Do you think that’s also sunlight? I’ve seen one with that before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbutk Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share Posted December 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, IKLland said: What about the rust? Do you think that’s also sunlight? I’ve seen one with that before. Just did a quick Google Image search. It's sortof visible here: https://www.naturepl.com/stock-photo-carpodacus-mexicanus-nature-image00563457.html P.S. Thanks for the discussion. I'm actually learning something new tonight. 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Just now, sbutk said: P.S. Thanks for the discussion. I'm actually learning something new tonight. 👍 Your welcome! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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