floraphile Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 10 Jan 2022 Baldwin co. AL; small waterfowl refuge in small bay alongside busy highway tail finely barred; head almost white except for that odd moustachial stripe; kiting for a long while in very strong headwind before perching on road sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 @DLecy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 @IKLland--after looking at pics on ebird, I think it probably does not qualify as Krider's, since he wasn't pale all over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I don't have extensive experience with Krider's as I have been primarily a CA birder. Better pictures are ideal, but the one thing I noted is the heavy belly-band, which is problematic for a pure Krider's. I'm inclined to call this a white-faced "Eastern" or perhaps even a Krider's x "Eastern." I'm also not convinced the bird is a juv, as the tail appears to be somewhat reddish, indicating an adult RTHA. @Greenesnake seems to be the resident RTHA expert, so it would be good to her from them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just found this online. It may help. https://www.aba.org/birding_archive_files/v42n2p38.pdf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 9 hours ago, DLecy said: I don't have extensive experience with Krider's as I have been primarily a CA birder. Better pictures are ideal, but the one thing I noted is the heavy belly-band, which is problematic for a pure Krider's. I'm inclined to call this a white-faced "Eastern" or perhaps even a Krider's x "Eastern." I'm also not convinced the bird is a juv, as the tail appears to be somewhat reddish, indicating an adult RTHA. @Greenesnake seems to be the resident RTHA expert, so it would be good to her from them. I will count it as Red-tailed with a description of the pale underparts & head with malar stripe. Thanks @DLecy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 8 hours ago, DLecy said: Just found this online. It may help. https://www.aba.org/birding_archive_files/v42n2p38.pdf Great article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenesnake Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) Sorry, I got locked out of my account and just got back This bird for me is just a lightly colored juvenile Red-tail that's most likely just an Eastern borealis, on the light end of the spectrum. It's too heavily marked below to be a pure Krider's. Edited January 29 by Greenesnake 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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