floraphile Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 14 Jan 2021 Baldwin co. AL; bay/gulfside public park/historic fort; open grassland, thin woods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birding Boy Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Red-shouldered, those tail bands are awfully thick. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 26 minutes ago, Birding Boy said: Red-shouldered, those tail bands are awfully thick. Thank you @Birding Boy. I called it Red-tailed b/c was interpreting the white on the back as a "V". Can you help me out with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birding Boy Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 36 minutes ago, floraphile said: Thank you @Birding Boy. I called it Red-tailed b/c was interpreting the white on the back as a "V". Can you help me out with that? This is one of those things where I know it’s a RSHA, but it’s difficult to explain why haha. Sadly I don’t have much personal experience with RSHA so I don’t know how much white is typical for an immature of that species, but I don’t find myself using that for identification purposes very much. Hopefully someone else here can help out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Friedman Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Birding Boy said: Red-shouldered, those tail bands are awfully thick. Also the long tail and the rows of pale icicles on the secondaries. But I can't help with the V on the back. I don't suppose, @floraphile, that you got shots from any other angle? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 6 minutes ago, Jerry Friedman said: Also the long tail and the rows of pale icicles on the secondaries. But I can't help with the V on the back. I don't suppose, @floraphile, that you got shots from any other angle? Unfortunately, not. That would've been too helpful! 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 It's not uncommon for juv. RSHAs to have pale edgings to the coverts which can appear as a "V" when viewed at the right angle, dorsally. https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/207552661 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/207551511 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/117335671 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 On 1/15/2022 at 11:39 AM, Jerry Friedman said: Also the long tail This. RTHA's wingtips reach or extend past their tail, RSHA tail extends quite far past the wingtips. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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