Lutya Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Terrible pic but can this be confirmed as a Sage Sparrow? Taken today near Charleston Mt, Las Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiley Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Looks like a Pipit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutya Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 Interesting. It doesn't look like the Pipits I've seen in the northeast. Can I get a second? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melierax Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I agree. American Pipits come in a few different subspecies I believe but I haven't really paid attention to that. Note that Sage Sparrows have short stubby sparrow beaks as well as an overall rounder, stubbier shape - whereas this Pipit has a long, strutting shape and a long thin beak. Also, the breast markings are extensive and across the chest unlike Sage Sparrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Friedman Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 53 minutes ago, Melierax said: I agree. American Pipits come in a few different subspecies I believe but I haven't really paid attention to that. Note that Sage Sparrows have short stubby sparrow beaks as well as an overall rounder, stubbier shape - whereas this Pipit has a long, strutting shape and a long thin beak. Also, the breast markings are extensive and across the chest unlike Sage Sparrow. I agree with American Pipit for those reasons. However, though four subspecies are recognized (one breeding in Siberia, not North America), it seems that in winter plumage individual variation is greater than variation between subspecies, according to BNA online. By the way, Sage Sparrow has been split into Bell's Sparrow (mostly West Coast) and Sagebrush Sparrow (the rest of the range). At eBird, there are records of both around Las Vegas, but neither seems likely near Charleston Mountain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeker Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I'm also onboard with American Pipit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutya Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) Just wanted to correct the location. This was actually taken at the Spring Mountain Ranch State Park in Red Rock Canyon. I was at both locations that day and got confused. I'm assuming it doesn't change the ID but just wanted the info to be correct. Also, there has not been a Pipit seen here since April 2018, while there has been Sagebrush Sparrows seen this month. Edited October 30, 2018 by Lutya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvoryBillHope Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Definite American Pipit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutya Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Great, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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