NorthernKeys Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 23 minutes ago, Tanager 101 said: I also call Common Gallinule Common Moorhen Same here, although I would say American rather than Common to specify it from Eurasian and Dusky. They're already called Moorhens, so why not American Moorhen too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meghann Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, NorthernKeys said: Same here, although I would say American rather than Common to specify it from Eurasian and Dusky. They're already called Moorhens, so why not American Moorhen too? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 2 hours ago, meghann said: This has been driving me nuts. I have been googling and googling trying to figure out where this would come from, and haven't found anything. I think it’s because its plumage, specifically the spotting, looks like a toasted marshmallow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoroark Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, meghann said: PBSP, or peanut butter sparrow ? That goes along with the Peanut Butter Grebe. Definitely in agreement with the Ring-necked Duck. I've noted down "Ring-billed Duck" by accident, possibly due to seeing the Ring-billed Gull on the same outing. Honorifics should probably go, as well. A more controversial opinion would be renaming entire families that are unrelated, such as how the New World blackbirds, robins, and orioles have no relation to their respective Old World brethren. Edited April 8, 2022 by Zoroark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meghann Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zoroark said: A more controversial opinion would be renaming entire families that are unrelated, such as how the New World blackbirds, robins, and orioles have no relation to their respective Old World brethren. Oh no, I'm on board with this. While we're at it, let's rename robin to Orange-breasted Thrush. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamRHead Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 6 hours ago, meghann said: Oh no, I'm on board with this. While we're at it, let's rename robin to Orange-breasted Thrush. Hmm...I was skim reading and missed the "hr" in Thrush ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peromyscus Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 10 hours ago, meghann said: Oh no, I'm on board with this. While we're at it, let's rename robin to Orange-breasted Thrush. Or how about Migratory Thrush, to match its scientific name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Peromyscus said: Or how about Migratory Thrush, to match its scientific name? I thought that to, but it’s redundant, as it migrates less than other thrushes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Bicknell’s could be Appalachian Thrush (mountain and alpine were taken) Swainson’s could be renamed easily if we split the subspecies… 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 8:37 PM, meghann said: @Liam is probably the one with the most authority on the forum to get this one changed. Lol. (How's that thesis coming, Liam? Why are you reading this? Get back to work!) Yes, ma'am!! FYI, the historic name for Bachman's Sparrow was Pinewoods Sparrow. I do advocate for the name change, even though that has some pretty severe implications for my manuscript! ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Liam said: FYI, the historic name for Bachman's Sparrow was Pinewoods Sparrow. I do advocate for the name change, even though that has some pretty severe implications for my manuscript! ? I knew that! Thank my 1951 field guide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Liam said: that has some pretty severe implications for my manuscript! ? Find -> Replace All. 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipperatl Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 I'm for some alignment on the Greater/Great and Lesser/Least naming. We have Greater/Lesser Yellowlegs/Scaup, but Great/Lesser Black-backed Gulls/Roadrunner. Then there is the Least Sandpiper, but no Great/Greater Sandpiper. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoroark Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 3 hours ago, chipperatl said: We have Greater/Lesser Yellowlegs/Scaup, but Great/Lesser Black-backed Gulls/Roadrunner. Then there is the Least Sandpiper, but no Great/Greater Sandpiper. How about the Great Blue Heron and Little Blue Heron? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipperatl Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 27 minutes ago, Zoroark said: How about the Great Blue Heron and Little Blue Heron? I knew I was forgetting one. Yes. Great/Greater and Lesser/Little/Least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Green Heron? There's hardly anything green about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestranger Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Red-bellied Woodpeckers seldom show their red belly but I'm drawing a blank for a better name. I guess a number system is out of the question? Red-white and Black Woodpecker #1, Red-white and Black Woodpecker #2, Red-white and Black Woodpecker #3,..... Red-white and Black Woodpecker #11, .Red-white and Black Woodpecker #12, etc., is probably not an option, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, lonestranger said: Red-bellied Woodpeckers seldom show their red belly but I'm drawing a blank for a better name. I guess a number system is out of the question? Red-white and Black Woodpecker #1, Red-white and Black Woodpecker #2, Red-white and Black Woodpecker #3,..... Red-white and Black Woodpecker #11, .Red-white and Black Woodpecker #12, etc., is probably not an option, eh? Red-crowned. Red-naped. Eastern Ladder-backed. Are any of those taken? Edited June 16, 2022 by Charlie Spencer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 47 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said: Red-crowned. Red-naped. Eastern Ladder-backed. Are any of those taken? I know red crowned is for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Charlie Spencer said: Red-crowned. Red-naped. Eastern Ladder-backed. Are any of those taken? https://ebird.org/species/recwoo1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestranger Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said: Red-crowned. Red-naped. Eastern Ladder-backed. Are any of those taken? I thought of those but thought they'd be a bit ambiguous since many woodpeckers have a red crown and/or a red nape and many have a ladder-backed pattern of sorts. 1 hour ago, IKLland said: https://ebird.org/species/recwoo1 Maybe Northern Red-crowned Woodpecker since they sure look the same. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 I will add that I think Red-bellied is a better name than naming it after a person. Like how Franklin’s Gull might be better named as “Pink-bellied Gull”. The pink isn’t always there, but it is sometimes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colton V Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 I remember being more upset than necessary when they changed Gray Jay to Canada Jay. Why did they do that?! Gray Jay was a perfectly accurate name and they live in places other than Canada! Are there even any other jay species that are so grayscale? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Colton V said: I remember being more upset than necessary when they changed Gray Jay to Canada Jay. Why did they do that?! Gray Jay was a perfectly accurate name and they live in places other than Canada! Are there even any other jay species that are so grayscale? https://sora.unm.edu/sites/default/files/2-16 OB V35%231 Ap 2017.pdf https://corvidresearch.blog/2019/02/25/the-bird-of-many-names/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colton V Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, DLecy said: https://sora.unm.edu/sites/default/files/2-16 OB V35%231 Ap 2017.pdf https://corvidresearch.blog/2019/02/25/the-bird-of-many-names/ So if I’m understanding this correctly, the name was switched back to Canada Jay simply because that was its original name and they wanted it to be more patriotic for Canada? I still feel like Gray Jay is more appropriate. And I agree with the second article—if we’re worried about what it was called originally, we should be calling it Wisakedjak! Why does Canada have so many birds named after it anyways? (I know it’s only 3, but that’s 3 more than the USA) And the state of California, too (7!?). It doesn’t make sense to me to name a bird after a location if the bird is found elsewhere besides that location. Though I do recognize that a good amount of California-named birds are found only in Cali/Baja California… Doesn’t really matter to me though, I still go with whatever the AOS decides. Sometimes I just like to get riled up over arbitrary little issues, just for fun. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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