floraphile Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 11 Apr 2022 suburban yard with large mature trees, lawn, shrubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PascalNJ Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Scarlet, I think. A Summer would have a red tail. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, PascalNJ said: Scarlet, I think. A Summer would have a red tail. agreed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, PascalNJ said: Scarlet, I think. A Summer would have a red tail. It would. I was unsure if this tail was truly black or only shadowed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 25 minutes ago, floraphile said: It would. I was unsure if this tail was truly black or only shadowed. Looking at it closer on my computer, it might be a shadow. I'm not sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 5 minutes ago, IKLland said: Looking at it closer on my computer, it might be a shadow. I'm not sure... Those primaries look black to me, top and bottom. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 yeah, it's scarlet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Agreed, those wings are way too black for anything other than Scarlet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PascalNJ Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, floraphile said: It would. I was unsure if this tail was truly black or only shadowed. Undertail coverts are too red and contrasting with the tail feathers to only be a shadow. At least, that's my opinion 😏 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanager 101 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I'm going with Summer Tanager. Scarlet Tanager is my favorite bird, so I look at tons of photos of them and stuff. This just looked wrong for Scarlet to me from the start. I didn't have a reason why, I just thought it looked wrong. Look closer at the wing especially up by the breast. It is actually red, not black, pushing for Summer. It between the two trees, there is on the edge of the wing some red. I think I can even make out some red on the tail edges looking really close at the photo too. Also not that this is actually a reliable feature, but male Scarlet's are more of a deeper red then this. This bird is too rosy. Not a big difference in the two species. I have looked at Scarlet's enough and they are different then this: darker, different shade of red. I say this is a Summer Tanager with lighting making parts of the wings and tail look darker. 10 hours ago, IKLland said: Looking at it closer on my computer, it might be a shadow. I'm not sure... https://ebird.org/species/scatan https://ebird.org/species/sumtan Here are both Scarlet and Summer. Look at the color of the males. Scarlet is a deeper red, while Summer is a brighter rosy-red. Maybe this is just me as a painter getting into the color differences too much, but this is my opinion. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) I think I actually agree with Summer Tanager here. Superficially, the bird in this photo could throw one off given the impression of dark tail and primaries. But, keep in mind that SUTA can and do have dark wings and the tail can appear dark when viewed ventrally in low light. SCTA would appear black. https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/270433441 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/245049811 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/222424741 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/338779001 The key to ID here though is the bill. Look at the size of that bill...it's just waaay too big for SCTA, IMO. Edited April 12 by DLecy 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meghann Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Also in the summer camp. (lol) When you zoom in on the pic, you can see the upperside of the left wing in the middle, and it's red, not black. The bill appears to be honking big, too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Hmm. Looks like a Scarlet *turns computer brightness to 100%* Nevermind 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 4 hours ago, Avery said: Hmm. Looks like a Scarlet *turns computer brightness to 100%* Nevermind Same, actually! I always keep my computer brightness under 50 percent, so I missed this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floraphile Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 Thanks, everyone! I thought Summer in the field, but when I looked at the pics, I wasn't so sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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