Viurre Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1. Is this a Cooper's Hawk? Or other? 2. Hairy or Downy Woodpecker? 3. Don't know, need ID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinmt Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Coopers, Hairy, and taking a guess on the third - juvi red-shouldered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestranger Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 If the woodpecker is on a standard sized suet feeder, I would say the bird is too small to be a Hairy Woodpecker. While we can't see the tip of the bill, it still looks more like a small Downy Woodpecker's bill to me. I'm sure someone more competent at IDs will clarify whether this is a Downy or not, and provide more reasons behind the ID. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark5 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Suet cakes are 4.5 inches on a side. Nat. Geo. gives the size of Downy as 6.75 inches and Hairy as 9.25 inches. In the absence of other evidence I would agree with lonestranger and say Downy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, lonestranger said: If the woodpecker is on a standard sized suet feeder, That's EXACTLY what I was going to say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viurre Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 Anyone else want to take a guess at #3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinmt Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Dang, I was focused on the missing black bars on the outer tail feathers and missed the suet block size comparison. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melierax Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Is the third one a Broad-winged Hawk? I'm not comfortable in eastern raptor identification but don't they have a dark bib and sides and whitish wings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) For #2, pretty sure this is a Downy. I’ve noticed that sometimes the dotted outer tail feathers in the Downys aren’t always visible (or just not there at all). The bill is smaller relative to body size and has a more “hunched” look than Hairy’s - to me at least. Edited November 17, 2018 by Winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiley Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I think 3 is either a Broad-winged or Red-shouldered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestranger Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 1:12 PM, Viurre said: Anyone else want to take a guess at #3? I would guess, and it would only be a guess, that this is a red-shouldered hawk. Broad-winged hawks are early migrants and most of them would have passed through PA by mid September according to HawkMountain. I know that birds follow migration dates as much as they follow boundaries on range maps so it's not definitive, but it's enough to influence my guess for red-shouldered hawk. http://www.hawkmountain.org/raptorpedia/hawks-at-hawk-mountain/hawk-species-at-hawk-mountain/broad-winged-hawk/page.aspx?id=655 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viurre Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipperatl Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Any other pics of bird 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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