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Please confirm Virginia Rails

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On Aug 23, I got a glimpse of a dark bird wading in a marsh area at the Cave and Basin National Historic Site (in Banff NP).  I was not able to get great pictures, but I was back at the same site on the 29th.  I saw a pair this time (exact same spot).  I've attached two pictures from each day.  The only thing I've been able to come up with is juvenile Virginia Rails.  My issue is location.  This site is out of the Virginia Rail range shown on the map in Nat Geo (however, not by too far).  Can someone confirm Virginia Rails or clue me in to what else they may be?

thanks!!

Aug 23:

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Aug 29:

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I'm funding a Kickstarter to provide iBird to all of 2019's fledglings, juveniles, immatures, and young gulls up through their 2nd year plumage, so they'll know what their ranges are.  Maybe then they'll stay where they're supposed to be.

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2 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said:

I'm funding a Kickstarter to provide iBird to all of 2019's fledglings, juveniles, immatures, and young gulls up through their 2nd year plumage, so they'll know what their ranges are.  Maybe then they'll stay where they're supposed to be.

Or would it be cheaper to update the iBird maps?

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2 hours ago, HamRHead said:

Or would it be cheaper to update the iBird maps?

Then we'd be updating the maps all the time.  It's time to stop this undisciplined wandering.  It's too late to hope for any conformity from the existing birds; they're all a bunch of unprincipled Millennials.  Our only hope for future birding is to properly indoctrinate future generations.  Gotta nip it in the bud.

Show a bird a map and he'll stay in his range for a day.  Give a bird a map and he'll stay there the rest of his life.

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1 hour ago, Charlie Spencer said:

Then we'd be updating the maps all the time.  It's time to stop this undisciplined wandering.  It's too late to hope for any conformity from the existing birds; they're all a bunch of unprincipled Millennials.  Our only hope for future birding is to properly indoctrinate future generations.  Gotta nip it in the bud.

Show a bird a map and he'll stay in his range for a day.  Give a bird a map and he'll stay there the rest of his life.

Um, Confucius, what about Starlings?

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7 minutes ago, HamRHead said:

Um, Confucius, what about Starlings?

[sarcasm]

Bunch a European immigrants.  House Sparrows too.   Obviously can't be trusted to stay where they belong; they got here, didn't they?

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