dragon49 Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 Here is a video along with some screenshots from it. Taken this morning in Boynton Beach, Florida: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon49 Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 Bump - I'm thinking Tree Swallow based on my last screen grab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon49 Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 Here's another screen grab from the vid: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon49 Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 After I cropped and lightened this one, both Merlin and iBird Photo Sleuth are positive it's a Barn Swallow, so that's my call now, unless there are dissenting opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 With the dark throat and deeply forked tail, Barn Swallow should be a safe bet. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon49 Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 8 minutes ago, Quiscalus quiscula said: With the dark throat and deeply forked tail, Barn Swallow should be a safe bet. Man, those things are near impossible to photograph. I couldn't predict any flight patterns in sports (my camera's burst takes a max of 7 pictures) mode but was able to get a decent enough video, and my editing skills saved the day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colton V Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 22 minutes ago, dragon49 said: Here's another screen grab from the vid: I remember Tony Leukering once said if a swallow has white spots on its tail, it's a Barn Swallow. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiscalus quiscula Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 3 minutes ago, Colton V said: I remember Tony Leukering once said if a swallow has white spots on its tail, it's a Barn Swallow. Yep, at least in the US. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKLland Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Long tail also indicates BARS. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds are cool Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 last photo. bird out of focus in the bottom right is a tree swallow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colton V Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 53 minutes ago, Quiscalus quiscula said: Yep, at least in the US. Yes, forgot about that limitation, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon49 Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 2 hours ago, Birds are cool said: last photo. bird out of focus in the bottom right is a tree swallow. I'm holding off on reporting, as when I started to, Ebird listed Tree Swallows as rare for the date and area. Are you referring to the bird on the bottom right here: or here: Here is a cropped pic of the bird on the bottom right on the second photo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon49 Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 (edited) I got some better pics of what appears to be a tree swallow from another video, so I added the rare species, to my checklist, along with the media, and we will see if I get my first confirm for a rare species. I subscribe to rare bird alerts for my county, so I'll find out soon. 🙂 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/473215411 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/473215421 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/473215431 Edited August 7 by dragon49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 8 hours ago, dragon49 said: I got some better pics of what appears to be a tree swallow from another video, so I added the rare species, to my checklist, along with the media, and we will see if I get my first confirm for a rare species. I subscribe to rare bird alerts for my county, so I'll find out soon. 🙂 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/473215411 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/473215421 https://macaulaylibrary.org/asset/473215431 Your last two photos there are barn, and personally I would not be comfortable calling the other photo. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon49 Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 8 minutes ago, Kevin said: Your last two photos there are barn, and personally I would not be comfortable calling the other photo. I moved the media for the last two photos to Barn Swallow. I'm leaving the Tree Swallow report with the bad pic in place for now. This should get included in the county rare alert email that will go out later this morning. If I get an email from a reviewer correcting the ID, or if it remains unconfirmed for a while, I'll remove the sighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Why not just put the photo down as swallow sp.? Not everything needs to be identified to species, and in fact, not everything should be. The notion of putting things down just to see what the reviewer thinks and forcing them to make a call on your photo, is interesting. You have already been given some feedback on this forum, so why not heed that advice? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon49 Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 (edited) 48 minutes ago, DLecy said: Why not just put the photo down as swallow sp.? Not everything needs to be identified to species, and in fact, not everything should be. The notion of putting things down just to see what the reviewer thinks and forcing them to make a call on your photo, is interesting. You have already been given some feedback on this forum, so why not heed that advice? I came to the same conclusion before having seen your reply. I deleted the Tree Swallow observation and changed my sightings accordingly, which was to report two Barn Swallows and 28 swallow.sp. I didn't bother uploading the bad picture to the swallow.sp section. This was the right thing to do. My count was accurate, but without good photo evidence, and with my not so good swallow-spotting field instincts, coupled with bad lighting making colors hard to discern in the field, I can't responsibly report anything else. I know more about swallow visual clues from this exercise, so hopefully, next time in the field I see swallows and don't get good pictures, I'll be able to be more specific. Edited August 7 by dragon49 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Spencer Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, dragon49 said: 'm leaving the Tree Swallow report with the bad pic in place for now. This should get included in the county rare alert email that will go out later this morning. Another down side to this approach is the alerts don't go to just reviewers. Someone may receive the alert and decided to look for this bird. Good call on the reclassification as 'species'. Edited August 7 by Charlie Spencer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLecy Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 36 minutes ago, dragon49 said: I came to the same conclusion before having seen your reply. I deleted the Tree Swallow observation and changed my sightings accordingly, which was to report two Barn Swallows and 28 swallow.sp. I didn't bother uploading the bad picture to the swallow.sp section. This was the right thing to do. My count was accurate, but without good photo evidence, and with my not so good swallow-spotting field instincts, coupled with bad lighting making colors hard to discern in the field, I can't responsibly report anything else. I know more about swallow visual clues from this exercise, so hopefully, next time in the field I see swallows and don't get good pictures, I'll be able to be more specific. Good work. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon49 Posted August 7 Author Share Posted August 7 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Charlie Spencer said: Another down side to this approach is the alerts don't go to just reviewers. Someone may receive the alert and decided to look for this bird. Good call on the reclassification as 'species'. I didn't yet get the latest rare bird alert, but hopefully, I edited the checklist in time for the Tree Swallow not to have made the list. If it does make the list though, anybody looking at my checklist will see the sighting was removed. Edited August 7 by dragon49 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 On 8/7/2022 at 11:46 AM, dragon49 said: I didn't yet get the latest rare bird alert, but hopefully, I edited the checklist in time for the Tree Swallow not to have made the list. If it does make the list though, anybody looking at my checklist will see the sighting was removed. I once had a friend text me asking how I had identified the extinct subspecies of House Finch I had reported… that was an embarrassing misclick. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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