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Ontonagon, Michigan, last week. I was unable to get photos of either. The potential winter wren was seen is good habitat for one (Can attach photos of habitat). I got a decent visual. appeared dark with barring on flanks. Had tail cocked but it seem to be lengthwise in between House wren and winter wren. (Note: I did have a house wren singing at a location about 3/4 mile away a couple hours earlier) My question on the crossbill is what is the pattern of flight calls. When this bird flew over it gave a 'jit' with about a three second pause, then it did it again. (Then gone) All the recordings I've listened too have the crossbills giving at least 2 'jit' calls in a group before a break. My first thought when I heard it was "Crossbill" I ran a got a phone and looked up the crossbill flight calls again. It sounded close to type 2 or 3. Do they have those in Michigan? Thanks!

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Checking eBird maps, looks like we do get both type 2 and 3 Red Crossbills in Michigan. Offhand I can't think of anything that sounds super close to a Red Crossbill, so that's most likely what you observed. Did you see the Crossbill at all? Flight style should rule out a lot of non-finch birds. 

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2 hours ago, Birding Boy said:

Checking eBird maps, looks like we do get both type 2 and 3 Red Crossbills in Michigan. Offhand I can't think of anything that sounds super close to a Red Crossbill, so that's most likely what you observed. Did you see the Crossbill at all? Flight style should rule out a lot of non-finch birds. 

Yep and my brain immediately flew to crossbill, I had to check the call it was giving though. I was helping take down our tent so I didn't have a camera handy though.

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