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Howdy, So I have recently moved to Florida from Colorado. In our new backyard got a couple of bad photos of what I think is a non-breeding male Scarlet Tanager. The ebird administrator thinks it is a Western Tanager. Additionally, this bird as a low black and white necklace which is probably molt or an injury. If you have any other suggestions what this anomaly is please let me know. Scarlet or Western Tanager that is the question? Thanks!

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I think it is a Western...based on bill color and the hint of a possible wing-bar. Please wait for more input as I'm not an expert on Tanager identifications. 🙂

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I'd lean towards nonbreeding male Scarlet here. The wings are really dark, the bill looks big, and I'm seeing no gray on the back.

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1 hour ago, Nighthawk01 said:

@psweet I believe they’re calling for you.

He hasn't been on here in a long time.

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@Clip are you on Facebook? If so, I would suggest posting this on the group "What's This Bird" from the ABA. 

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